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AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Jan 27^th, 2007, 9:35pm

AWA World Heavyweight Title History

Name Date Location Notes
Pat O'Connor January 9, 1959 Saint Louis, Missouri 1
Verne Gagne August 16, 1960 2
Gene Kiniski July 11, 1961 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Verne Gagne (2) August 8, 1961 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Mister M (Bill Miller) January 9, 1962 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Verne Gagne (3) August 21, 1962 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Crusher Lisowski July 9, 1963 Minneapolis, Minnesota 3
Verne Gagne (4) July 20, 1963 Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
Fritz Von Erich July 27, 1963 Omaha, Nebraska 5
Verne Gagne (5) August 8, 1963 Amarillo, Texas 6
Crusher Lisowski (2) November 28, 1963 Saint Paul, Minnesota
Verne Gagne (6) December 14, 1963 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Maurice Vachon May 2, 1964 Omaha, Nebraska
Verne Gagne (7) May 15, 1964 Omaha, Nebraska
Maurice Vachon (2) October 20, 1964 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Mighty Igor Vodic May 15, 1965 Omaha, Nebraska
Maurice Vachon (3) May 22, 1965 Omaha, Nebraska
Crusher Lisowski (3) August 21, 1965 Saint Paul, Minnesota
Maurice Vachon (4) November 12, 1965 Denver, Colorado
Dick The Bruiser November 12, 1966 Omaha, Nebraska
Maurice Vachon (5) November 19, 1966 Omaha, Nebraska
Verne Gagne (8) February 26, 1967 Saint Paul, Minnesota
Dr. X (Dick Beyer) August 17, 1968 Bloomington, Minnesota
Verne Gange (9) August 31, 1968 Minneapolis, Minnesota
Nick Bockwinkle November 8, 1975 Saint Paul, Minnesota 7
Verne Gagne (10) July 18, 1980 Chicago, Illinois
Nick Bockwinkle (2) May 19, 1981 8
Hulk Hogan April, 18 1982 Saint Paul, Minnesota 9
Nick Bockwinkle (3) April, 24 1982 10
Otto Wanz August 29, 1982 Saint Paul, Minnesota
Nick Bockwinkle (4) October 9, 1982 Chicago, Illinois
Hulk Hogan April 24, 1983 Minneapolis, Minnesota 11
Nick Bockwinkle (5) April 24, 1983 Minneapolis, Minnesota 12
Jumbo Tsuruta February 22, 1984 Tokyo, Japan
Rick Martel May 13, 1984 Saint Paul, Minnesota 13
Stan Hansen December 29, 1985 East Rutherford, New Jersey
Nick Bockwinkle (6) June 28, 1986 Denver, Colorado 14
Curt Hennig May 2, 1987 San Francisco, California
Jerry Lawler May 9, 1988 Memphis, Tennessee 15
Larry Zbyszko February 7, 1989 Saint Paul, Minnesota 16
Masa Saito February 10, 1990 Tokyo, Japan
Larry Zbyszko (2) April 8, 1990 Saint Paul, Minnesota 17
Jonnie Stewart June 6, 1996 18
King Kong Bundy March 31, 1999 Osh Kosh, Wisconsin 19
The Patriot (Danny Dominion) July 29, 2000 Pine Bluff, Arkansas 20
Ricky Enrique July 29, 2000 Pine Bluff, Arkansas
Eric Priest June 3, 2001 Hillside, Illinois
Evan Karagias March 22, 2002 Casa Grande, Arizona
Luther "Horshu" Reigns October 12, 2002 Mercedes, Texas
Evan Karagias (2) July 6, 2003 Lemoore, California
Takao Omori February 15, 2005 Tokyo, Japan 21
Steve Corino June 11, 2005 Bay City, Michigan
Shinjiro Otani January 22, 2006 Tokyo, Japan
Takao Omori (2) April 1, 2006 Tokyo, Japan
Ric Converse June 14, 2006 Indianapolis, IN
Steve Corino (2) January 7, 2007 Pottstown, PA 22

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1. Pat O'Connor was recognized as the first AWA World Heavyweight Champion in May 1960, but was given 90 days to defend the title against Verne Gange or be stripped of the title.

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televiper75 Heavyweight Posts: 69 Gender:	Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History Reply #2 - Mar 13^th, 2007, 11:54am It is the "New" AWA. Run by Dale Gagne (no relation I believe). They now sanction territories around the country. They do tie their titles to the originals. www.awausa.com www.awastars.com
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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #3 - Mar 14^th, 2007, 3:26am

Checked that site. Doesn't sound too appealing to me. I dont like that "old school" angle theyre trying to work with. Been done too many times in the past. This organization is small now, and spread out among various regions(diluting its product). They should try something fresh, or if they're gonna take an old school approach, hire a bunch of old school classic wrestlers.

I've always wondered how a strictly nostalgic wrestling federation would go over. Not very well I assume, as most of the people I liked are definitely getting too old.

I'll just remember the fond memories of the couple years I watched AWA in the mid 80's.

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kaveman1969 Junior Heavyweight The Real World Champion Posts: 49 Gender:	Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2007, 11:25pm Hogan is listed twice as champion, yet he never WON the belt. Both matches were either a DQ and the belt went back to Bockwinkle, or the belt was held up with Bockwinkle winning the rematch. Hulk Hogan never officially won the AWA championship, even if the "new" AWA has rewritten history and says he did.
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badstreetusa #1 Contender 'Southern Pride' Posts: 134 Gender:	Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History Reply #5 - May 3^rd, 2007, 10:03pm Quote from televiper75 on Mar 13^th, 2007, 11:54am: It is the "New" AWA. Run by Dale Gagne (no relation I believe). They now sanction territories around the country. They do tie their titles to the originals. www.awausa.com www.awastars.com he's not even though he claims to be related to the family.
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bobbyryates Champion Posts: 4445	Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History Reply #7 - Jul 12^th, 2007, 4:31pm what about Eduoard Carpentier? i thought he was the first champ.
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Chito K. McMahon Champion NWA Classics Moderator Posts: 1143 Gender:	Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History Reply #8 - Jul 12^th, 2007, 5:37pm Carpentier held a Montreal version of the AWA title in Eddie Quinn's promotion in, I believe, 1957.
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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #9 - Jul 12^th, 2007, 5:44pm

The belt Carpentier held was the Omaha territory's version of the World Heavyweight title, created when he 'beat' Thesz for the NWA world title on June 14, 1957 (25 years to the day before my birth), causing the local promoters to 'claim' Carpentier as the World Champion, thus creating this new belt (a situation remarkably similar to the genesis of the both the AWA belt 3 years later & WWWF title some 6 years later). It is NOT the same belt, although was later unified with the AWA belt - NB: in a forgotten piece of history the two belts were held along side each other for almost about half a year as a 'double title' before being unified, as Crusher Lisowski beat Verne Gagne for the Omaha belt in early '63, and then beat him for the AWA title that summer. Verne hot potatoed the BELTS with Fritz Von Erich, and upon getting the belt back on September 7th, the titles were 'unified' into the AWA Heavyweight belt that we know today. (NB: The AWA title did not start until 1960)

Possibly the idea behind Verne continuing to promote two world titles was that fans in both territories would think they had the 'world champion' (just speculation), so that the 'world champion' could literally be in two places at once.

Anyway - you could KINDA say that Edouard Carpentier held the AWA title, but its a bit like a former WCW champion saying they've held the WWE world title, as the 2 belts were unified in December 2001, or like Orville Brown laying claim to being a former NWA champion (he held A NWA title - but not the Brisco / Flair / Race / Funks version) and at a stretch its a bit like Lou Thesz saying he held the belt that Frank Gotch once wore....

I guess its down to opinion, but I guess you could legitimately say that Carpentier held a forgotten VERSION of the World Title, but the AWA name (and title) didn't even come into existence until 3 years later....

EDIT: further research shows the situation to be more complicated that this, as Carpentier's 'victory' over Thesz wasn't the start of the Omaha belt in itself, more over Eddie Quinn booked Carpentier as world champion after the NWA overturned the victory. Carpentier 'losing' this 'title' to Gagne in Omaha in August 1958 would have to be considered the official beginning of the Omaha World Title....

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #10 - Jul 12^th, 2007, 5:59pm

Re Eddie Quinn - yes - the nature of the discrepancy that caused Carpentier's win over Thesz in Chicago to not be recognized by the NWA was an a falling out between Quinn - who booked Carpentier - and the NWA. It should be noted that Quinn booked Carpentier to 'lose' his 'title' in several territories (Boston, Los Angeles, Omaha) allowing those territories to start their own World titles (that would've been presented to local fans in each territory as being THE world title)....

So, if anything, you could say Carpentier could claim to have once held the AWA title, but the bizarre multi-dimensional nature of him 'losing' the belt all over the place really puts that status into jeopardy and makes it hard to define. The situation is complicated even further by it historically being hard to decipher what was storyline, and what was promoters double-crossing each other....

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #12 - Jul 14^th, 2007, 10:53pm

Quote from kaveman1969 on Apr 28^th, 2007, 11:25pm:

Hogan is listed twice as champion, yet he never WON the belt. Both matches were either a DQ and the belt went back to Bockwinkle, or the belt was held up with Bockwinkle winning the rematch. Hulk Hogan never officially won the AWA championship, even if the "new" AWA has rewritten history and says he did.

Actually, Hogan won both matches, only both were immediately overturned, meaning Bock was still champ.

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2007, 10:54pm

Quote from televiper75 on Mar 13^th, 2007, 11:54am:

It is the "New" AWA. Run by Dale Gagne (no relation I believe). They now sanction territories around the country. They do tie their titles to the originals.

www.awausa.com
www.awastars.com

Nope, no relation, although Dale "claims" there is. BTW, his last name is actually Gagner

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #14 - Jul 14^th, 2007, 10:57pm

Quote from sittingstill on Jul 12^th, 2007, 5:44pm:

The belt Carpentier held was the Omaha territory's version of the World Heavyweight title, created when he 'beat' Thesz for the NWA world title on June 14, 1957 (25 years to the day before my birth), causing the local promoters to 'claim' Carpentier as the World Champion, thus creating this new belt (a situation remarkably similar to the genesis of the both the AWA belt 3 years later & WWWF title some 6 years later). It is NOT the same belt, although was later unified with the AWA belt - NB: in a forgotten piece of history the two belts were held along side each other for almost about half a year as a 'double title' before being unified, as Crusher Lisowski beat Verne Gagne for the Omaha belt in early '63, and then beat him for the AWA title that summer. Verne hot potatoed the BELTS with Fritz Von Erich, and upon getting the belt back on September 7th, the titles were 'unified' into the AWA Heavyweight belt that we know today. (NB: The AWA title did not start until 1960)

Possibly the idea behind Verne continuing to promote two world titles was that fans in both territories would think they had the 'world champion' (just speculation), so that the 'world champion' could literally be in two places at once.

Anyway - you could KINDA say that Edouard Carpentier held the AWA title, but its a bit like a former WCW champion saying they've held the WWE world title, as the 2 belts were unified in December 2001, or like Orville Brown laying claim to being a former NWA champion (he held A NWA title - but not the Brisco / Flair / Race / Funks version) and at a stretch its a bit like Lou Thesz saying he held the belt that Frank Gotch once wore....

I guess its down to opinion, but I guess you could legitimately say that Carpentier held a forgotten VERSION of the World Title, but the AWA name (and title) didn't even come into existence until 3 years later....

EDIT: further research shows the situation to be more complicated that this, as Carpentier's 'victory' over Thesz wasn't the start of the Omaha belt in itself, more over Eddie Quinn booked Carpentier as world champion after the NWA overturned the victory. Carpentier 'losing' this 'title' to Gagne in Omaha in August 1958 would have to be considered the official beginning of the Omaha World Title....

Actually Orville Brown DID hold the NWA Title that Brisco, Flair, Race, Funks, etc. held. He is listed as the first champion and was supposed to win a unification match with Lou Thesz, but a career ending car crash caused the NWA to give the title to Thesz.

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #15 - Jul 14^th, 2007, 11:25pm

You're absolutely right, apologies - for some reason I had in my mind that Thesz' subsequent reign was the first world title reign of the modern (1948 founded) NWA, maybe because effective with Thesz being handed that title there was an 'undisputed' champion (as Thesz was Association champ as well). I stand correct - Orville was indeed the first NWA champion....

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #16 - Sep 7^th, 2007, 10:00pm

Here's the low-down on Carpenter's title reign from www.wrestling-titles.com:

Lou Thesz [2] 56/11/09 St. Louis, MO
Edouard Carpentier # 57/06/14 Chicago, IL
Wins when Thesz cannot continue due to a back injury.
Lou Thesz # 57/07/24 Montreal, QC
Defeats Carpentier by disqualification; NWA initially continues to recognize Carpentier as the champion; however, Carpentier withdraws his claim to the title when Montreal promoter Eddie Quinn leaves NWA; NWA voids all recognition of Carpentier as champion; Carpentier continues to be recognized as world champion in Omaha and by World Wrestling Association in Los Angeles to legitimate the lineages of their world titles.

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #17 - Nov 21^st, 2007, 7:42am

Hey, hope you guyts can help out here!!

here'[s all my AWA Title matches, which I'm going to put together into a compilation. Which are title changes?

Verne Gagne vs. Dr. X (AWA Champion) (1968, Minneapolis)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (late 60’s, 8mm film clips)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (1972, Chicago)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Blackjack Mulligan (1973, Chicago)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Jimmy Valiant (1973, Chicago, 2/3 falls)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (1975, Chicago)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Eddie Graham (1972, Madison Square Garden, New York, 8mm film clips)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Mr. Fuji (1972 MSG New York, 8mm film clips)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Ivan Koloff (Sept 1, 1972, Chicago, 2/3 falls)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (2/3 falls, Chicago, 1973)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Baron Von Raschke (Chicago, 1974)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Ray Stevens (Not sure if it’s Stevens but it’s my guess, 8mm film clips, early 1970’s)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Billy Robinson (Chicago, 1974, Comisky Park)
AWA World Heavyweight Title: Verne Gagne (c) vs. Billy Robinson, 11/20/74. This took place in Japan complete 45-minute match
Verne Gagne ( AWA champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (February 1975, Chicago
Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange 8mm 1976
Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange 8mm 1976
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA World Champion) vs. Bruiser Brody (JIP). Houston, TX., 1978
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA champion) vs. Dick The Bruiser Chicago, November 7th 1978,
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. The Crusher (Minneapolis, February 1979, JIP, Cage match).
Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange February 10th, 1979
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA champion) vs. Super Destroyer II (Minneapolis, 1979
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. “Superstar” Bill Dundee (Memphis, March 1980,
Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange (July 18, 1980)
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Dino Bravo (Winnipeg, 1980, missing first minute). (21:00, EX-)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (1980, Minneapolis, MN, title rematch)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Jerry Blackwell (1981, St. Paul, MN, JIP) (sound is not good on this match)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (1981, Winnipeg retirement match, JIP)
Verne Gagne (AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (May 10, 1981, St. Paul, MN, retirement match)
Nick Bockwinkel vs. Pat O’Connor (St. Paul, March 1981, JIP).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Baron Von Raschke (Minneapolis 1981, JIP).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Sheik Adnan Al-Kaissie (Non-title No DQ match, September 1981,
AWA World Heavyweight Title: Nick Bockwinkel (c) vs. Billy Robinson, 12/25/81. Match is JIP from St. Paul.
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Tito Santana (Winnipeg, 1981, JIP). (19:00, VG)
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Brad Rheingans (1982, St. Paul , MN ,
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. “Dr. D” David Schultz (Calgary, Summer 1982, non-title).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Bret Hart (Calgary, 1982, JIP).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA champion) vs. Hulk Hogan (June 1982, St. Paul, End clip).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA World Champion) vs. Hulk Hogan. (April 20, 1983)
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Wahoo McDaniel (Winnipeg, 1983, JIP).
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Mad Dog Vachon (St. Paul, December 25th, 1983,

Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Blackjack Mulligan (Winnipeg, January 1984, JIP).
AWA World Heavyweight Title: Jumbo Tsuruta (c) vs. Billy Robinson, 3/11/84
Rick Martel ( AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (Winnipeg, July 1984,
AWA World Heavyweight Title: Rick Martel (c) vs. Billy Robinson, 11/22/84
Rick Martel ( AWA Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel (Winnipeg, March 1985, JIP).
Ric Flair vs. Rick Martel ( AWA title vs. NWA title, 10/2/85 Tokyo, Japan
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA Champion) vs. Curt Hennig (St. Paul, MN, 12/15/86 ).
Ric Flair vs. Nick Bockwinkle ( AWA title vs. NWA title - Good quality) 1/16/86
Stan Hansen ( AWA World Champion) vs. Nick Bockwinkel April 20, 1986
Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA world Champion) vs. Curt Hennig. May 2nd, 1987

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #18 - Nov 21^st, 2007, 8:52am

Verne Gagne vs. Dr. X (AWA Champion) (1968, Minneapolis)
(I'm assuming this one is a title change, I have Gagne beating Dr. X on 8/31/68 in Minneapolis, so I'm assuming that's the same match)

Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange (July 18, 1980)

Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA world Champion) vs. Curt Hennig. May 2nd, 1987

Thos are the ones that I can find as being title changes.

That looks like it's gonna be one hell of a compilation!

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Re: AWA World Heavyweight Title History
Reply #19 - Nov 21^st, 2007, 9:35am

Quote from Chito K. McMahon on Nov 21^st, 2007, 8:52am:

Verne Gagne vs. Dr. X (AWA Champion) (1968, Minneapolis)
(I'm assuming this one is a title change, I have Gagne beating Dr. X on 8/31/68 in Minneapolis, so I'm assuming that's the same match)

Nick Bockwinkel (AWA Champion) v Verne Gange (July 18, 1980)

Nick Bockwinkel ( AWA world Champion) vs. Curt Hennig. May 2nd, 1987

Thos are the ones that I can find as being title changes.

That looks like it's gonna be one hell of a compilation!

cheers!

I have 3 great comps of Gange, Robinson and Nick so I'm gonna put all the title matches from those in together

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Reply #22 - Jun 20^th, 2008, 4:46pm

Quote from thebear on Jun 20^th, 2008, 10:43am:

At least there IS a link there though

MACW became JCP which became WCW

This AWA has NOTHING at all to do with the old one

It was always JCP. They started using the MACW brand in the 70s and eventually phased it out in the 80s after going national. It became known as WCW after Turner took over, but JCP continued to exist as a separate corp and owned a small piece of it.

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