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JBLCENAFAN Champion Posts: 1191 Gender:	The Death OF WCW May 5^th, 2007, 7:42am It's amazing watching wwe 24/7 and seeing what Raw had on vs what WCW had to offer. It's even more amazing how fast it fell. Geez , they had all these wrestlers and did nothing with them...
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StompingGround

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Reply #1 - May 5^th, 2007, 9:29am

It came down to what you liked. There's been enough WCW bashing over the years due to the WWF fanboys. I never understood why anybody watched the WWF and WWF fans never understood why people liked WCW. Nobody can change anybody's mind. Both companies had silly things going on.

Remember that the only reason WCW folded was that Time Warner decided not to have wrestling on their stations anymore. Otherwise, who knows what might have happened with the new owners. Time Warner sold it to the WWF in order to spite Ted Turner in my opinion.

But the past is the past.

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Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2007, 3:11pm

The reason WWF was able to buy out WCW dirt cheap was because of the relationship between Brad Siegel and Stu Snyder. Speculation is that Snyder, who was working for Vince and negotiating on his behalf, convinced Siegel to have new Turner head Jamie Kellner cancel WCW off of TBS and TNT because Viacom was opposed to WWF owned WCW programming airing on any networks that were not under their corporate umbrella. When Kellner cancelled Nitro and Thunder, the people from Fusient Media Ventures pulled out of negotiations because the promotion wasn't worth squat without TV. So Vince swooped in and picked up the assets, no longer having to worry about any competing buyers nor having to worry about any complaints from Viacom.

As far as why Time Warner dumped WCW, I think it had more to do with the fact that the company was losing millions of dollars. The merger with AOL was on the horizon and they were looking to get rid of any business that was a liability. Likewise, I think the people in charge of Time Warner were probably ashamed to be associated with WCW and were apathetic toward wrestling in general anyway. The reason it survived all those years was because of Ted Turner. Once Ted lost control after the merger, it was doomed.

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Reply #3 - May 9^th, 2007, 7:57am

One thing is for sure when looking back...The word "history." It is just that: His story. So, if you only watched the Monday Night War DVD for example, you would get a story of the events in a somewhat "spun" biased toward WWF/E.

For another perspective (one, btw, is filled with information that only he and upper management knew), I suggest anyone interested in the tale read the Bischoff book. I have never been a fan of Bischoff per se, but he sheds light on a lot of things that are never touched on anywhere I have ever seen. Things that he could/could not do because of the legal department, the fact that the merger was affecting hiring policy/creative control of the show (even during the height of WCWs ratings and profit making), the role of EBITDA on the "accounting" aspect of the story, and more.

IMO, Vince did not, and would never be able to "win" against WCW were it not for the AOL Time Warner merge, and what it meant for the "new" company.

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Reply #4 - Jul 19^th, 2007, 3:09pm

In response to that .It was a real big shame.I lost a job that made me happy.I love pro wrestling & WCW.It to me was NWA.I grew up watching every sat. night on TBS.It truly was an honor to referee for the company from Dec.1999-March 2001.I am in the middle of an auction as well of one of the WCW referee shirts.The bid started off at 75 , It is only up to 100 right now.If interested in a piece of history you can bid through email addy jamtuck123@yahoo.com The auction ends sunday @ 6pm.I do have a limit I will not let it exceed.(that way it is still affordable)I will give daily updates through emails.It is on two other sites now as well.If you bid ,Good Luck.I will see everyone at fanfest.

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Reply #5 - Jul 19^th, 2007, 5:57pm

I never did care for all the WWF gimmicks(re sultan, dumpster, godwinns, brawler, abe knuckleball shwartz, etc) IMO the NWA was electric with Eddie Gilbert, Jimmy valiant, Horsemen, Sting, Steiners, Dusty who the wwf tried to ruin, magnum and Nikita. That was real Wrestling, not the rasslin or sports entertainment the wwf presented. Only reason I watched wwf was to see my favorites who jumped for more money. When the nwa went wcw it could have been huge and instead of taking advantage of the talent, they were too busy watching wwf themselves, nobody like copycats and weak ones at that. I do miss the old days of not knowing what happened at the omni, and tuning in the next week to see if Flair still had the 17 lbs of gold. JMO

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Reply #6 - Aug 8^th, 2007, 9:53pm

The death of WCW from a fans perspective was a couple of things - Eric Bischoff and commercialization of PPV's... It seemed in the 80's, feuds/rivalries came at a slower pace... Things would build for weeks, but don't worry - we'll settle it at the big PPV - which is either The Great American Bash or Starrcade (the 2 big ones)...

When Eric came to WCW, I personally felt screwed by a company that I had loyally watched for years... The idea of devoting 2 hours to a house show on TV, then giving the main event about 2 1/2 minutes was enough to make me realize that Monday Nitro was nothing more than a glorified advertisement for a monthly PPV, which really toned down the intensity to that of a house show...

Also, PPV's in the "older days" had conclusions to rivalries, or it took the rivalry to another level, and made it more interesting... Also PPV's created new rivalries, such as (imho) one of the best - Flair vs. Funk in 1989...

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halloweenhavoc89 #1 Contender Posts: 198 Gender:	Re: The Death OF WCW Reply #7 - Aug 15^th, 2007, 11:22am I point the finger not at Bischoff, but at Russo. He should have never showed his face...
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