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gmrich #1 Contender Posts: 168 Gender:	Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... May 11^th, 2007, 7:04am IMO, best: Ric Flair Chris Benoit Barry Windham Arn Anderson Worst: Mongo What are your picks?
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SFiedler1 Champion Posts: 585 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #1 - May 11^th, 2007, 10:19am Best...Flair, Windham, Arn & Tully Worst.....PAUL ROMA
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kevdaman Heavyweight Posts: 96 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2007, 11:12am The best by far are the original group of Ric Flair, Arn and Ole Anderson, and Tully Blanchard. I can think of a few worse single Horsemen. Those that come to mind are Mongo McMichael, Paul Roma, and Sid Vicious.
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Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman....
Reply #3 - May 11^th, 2007, 11:34am

Sting was good but he sucked as a Horsemen, simply didn' fit. For some reason Flair & Arn liked Mongo, but I enver saw it myself. Malenko falls under the same category as Sting IMO. Sid made a bad Horsemen I agree as well. Pillman was another good Horsemen though he had a short stint.

I too agree the original Horsemen were the best but I was listing the guys I liked most individually as Horsemen. As a whole the first was the best, no doubt.

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tonywiseman Rookie Posts: 23 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #4 - May 11^th, 2007, 9:05pm The best : Ric Flair, Arn Anderson , Tully Blanchard and Barry Windham The Worst: Paul Roma with Steve McMichael running a close second place....
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kennedy Heavyweight Posts: 100 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #5 - May 11^th, 2007, 10:08pm Best: Flair, AA, Benoit, Windham Worst: Roma and Mongo
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starrcadefan Champion Posts: 290 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #7 - May 13^th, 2007, 3:04pm All Time Best 4 Horsemen would have to be Flair, Windham, Anderson, and Blanchard. Worst would have to be Paul Roma..... Steve McMichael would come in second followed closely by Sid Vicious
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JBLCENAFAN Champion Posts: 1191 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #8 - May 13^th, 2007, 3:20pm Best : Flair, Windham , Tully , Arn. Worst Single? Malenko...
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gmrich #1 Contender Posts: 168 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #9 - May 13^th, 2007, 6:22pm Quote from JBLCENAFAN on May 13^th, 2007, 3:20pm: Best : Flair, Windham , Tully , Arn. Worst Single? Malenko... Wow. What did Dean Malenko ever do to you?
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kennedy Heavyweight Posts: 100 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #10 - May 13^th, 2007, 8:26pm Quote from JBLCENAFAN on May 13^th, 2007, 3:20pm: Best : Flair, Windham , Tully , Arn. Worst Single? Malenko... Malenko the worst? He was one of the best wrestlers ever in the world. He was the tough guy in the Horseman role.
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Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman....
Reply #11 - May 13^th, 2007, 8:35pm

Quote from JBLCENAFAN on May 13^th, 2007, 3:20pm:

Best : Flair, Windham , Tully , Arn. Worst Single? Malenko...

May I ask why you think Malenko is the worst? I think this could be a pretty interesting discussion...

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kevdaman Heavyweight Posts: 96 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #12 - May 13^th, 2007, 10:50pm I think as far as a pure wrestler, Malenko was one of the best. In my opinion, he just lacked the mic skills that the Horsemen are known for. However, overall, Malenko was not one of the worse Horsemen.
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SThomp27 Heavyweight Posts: 59	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #13 - May 14^th, 2007, 8:37pm Best: Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham, Chris Benoit Worst: Paul Roma, Mongo, Sid Vicious, Lex Luger
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jeremya3690 Rookie Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #14 - May 14^th, 2007, 11:30pm Roma is the worst, but i liked mongo, mongo used to have some hilarious promos. and dean malenko is one of the best wrestlers of all time but he didnt really fit the horsemen mold.
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Scott W Little Junior Heavyweight Wrestling Fan Posts: 49	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #15 - May 16^th, 2007, 12:34am PAUL ROMA
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mikeyblueeyesfla Rookie Posts: 1 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #16 - May 17^th, 2007, 8:00pm Ric Flair Chris Benoit Barry Windham Arn Anderson Worst:Roma,Sid Vicious
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stingmark Ex Member	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #17 - May 21^st, 2007, 7:25pm Quote from SFiedler1 on May 11^th, 2007, 10:19am: Best...Flair, Windham, Arn & Tully Worst.....PAUL ROMA My sentiments exactly!!
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GarvinStomp Champion Posts: 401 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #18 - May 21^st, 2007, 10:28pm Best: Ric Flair Arn Anderson Tully Blanchard Ole Anderson Worst: I guess you really can't argue against Paul Roma although in all honesty Flyin Brian sucked as a horseman too. Brian was great as a Hollywood Blonde, but didn't really fit in with the Horsemen IMHO.
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sittingstill Champion ''I've wrestled in a lot of cities....'' Posts: 479 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #19 - May 21^st, 2007, 11:56pm The best group was: Flair, Ole, Arn & Tully in my view.... The worst was Mongoloid McMichael (but only because I fail to acknowledge that ''Pretty Paul'' was ever a part of the group)....
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midnightrider Heavyweight Posts: 57	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #20 - Jun 17^th, 2007, 12:55am Gotta go with Ric flair
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midnightrider Heavyweight Posts: 57	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #21 - Jun 17^th, 2007, 12:59am J/k about flair............. Gotta go with Mcmichael or Roma
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SSteward Champion Posts: 351 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #22 - Jun 21^st, 2007, 2:14am best group was 88' Windham, but the original was booked the best. Worst Horsemen was Paul Roma as far as credibility, McMichael as far as ability.
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gmrich

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Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman....
Reply #23 - Jun 28^th, 2007, 9:41pm

Quote from kevdaman on May 13^th, 2007, 10:50pm:

I think as far as a pure wrestler, Malenko was one of the best. In my opinion, he just lacked the mic skills that the Horsemen are known for. However, overall, Malenko was not one of the worse Horsemen.

Funny you should say that Dean lacked the mic skills. He is a cut-up in real life--he just was NEVER booked as anything more than a stoic. Do not know why they would do that, except maybe because they did not want to overshadow his in-ring work with a silly gimmick.

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oldschoolwrestler Rookie Posts: 18	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #24 - Aug 8^th, 2007, 10:54pm Flair's the man... Sid definately didn't cut it... Roma could have had an image, but he couldn't win matches.. He was a mid-card wrestler at best... Mongo - well, he was the best they could get for what they were paying at the time...
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loose cannon 12 Heavyweight Loved And Hated But Never Inored Posts: 98 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #25 - Aug 9^th, 2007, 7:05pm IMO the best was talentwise was Flair, Tully, Arn, and Barry, but the best or most intimidating were w/ Ole. The worst was Mongo!
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oldschoolwrestler Rookie Posts: 18	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #26 - Aug 9^th, 2007, 8:07pm I remember Clash X from Corpus Christi, TX when Ole gave Sting until the end of the show to "make up his mind" to give up his match with Flair... They really sold that well, almost wondering how serious Ole and Arn were about sticking Sting's head in the sand...
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Bionic Elbow Champion I'm a burning representation of myself Posts: 520 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #27 - Aug 15^th, 2007, 10:04pm the best line up Flair ole arn tully the most talented Flair arn barry tully worstmemeber tie Roma and Mongo
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Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman....
Reply #28 - Aug 19^th, 2007, 2:45pm

I feel the best Horsemen are the Original group. They just set the tone for all super groups from that point on. I think the most GIFTED group would be Flair, Anderson, Blanchard & Barry. They just all had what most like to call IT.

The worst member to me would be Paul Roma. He went for jobber to member of the Horsemen. He didn't fit ANY kind of mold for that group. He was a waste of space in the group.

On a different note in that 4 Horsemen dvd he says that Flair and Anderson are jealous of him because of his body. I might be wrong and I hope that I am misquoting him but I do think that's what he said. Well that confirms it for me. In the words of Stevie Ray, "What's this Fruit Booty talking about?"

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carny Heavyweight Posts: 87	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #29 - Sep 22^nd, 2007, 10:54pm Best-Ole, Arn, Ric & Tully Worst-Roma, Mongo & Sid
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Sean Ex Member	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #30 - Feb 23^rd, 2008, 6:28pm Best: Ric Flair Arn Anderson Tully Blanchard Ole Anderson Chris Benoit and dean Malenko Worst: SID!!!!!!!!! I think they could have used Paul Roma better in my opinion..
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thebear Champion Check out my wrestling, MMA and Boxing DVD's Posts: 404	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #31 - Feb 26^th, 2008, 6:32am One of few times where I don't feel the original was the best Flair Arn Tully Windham Was the best group for me Roma worst
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Reply #32 - Mar 4^th, 2008, 7:03pm

Flair, Arn, Tully, Ole, and JJ were the best.

Luger and Windham fit very well and were smooth transitions. Do I even have to discuss Kendall Windham or Butch Reed?

I liked Sting's run, because it was short, and led to the Horsemen turning on him, setting up the Sting vs. Flair feud.

Sid didn't fit in too well. He wasn't the worker or mic guy the rest had been. I liked him much better as one of the Skyscrapers. Roma was not elite, and a meh worker, in my opinion the worst. Pillman didn't fit in with his character, and I think he should have stayed as a loner outside type. McMichael was a terrible wrestler, but got a decent enough push, and had legitmacy as a former Chicago Bear. Jarrett was a pretty good fit. Probably the best post 1987 Horsemen addition. Malenko/Benoit were too different from Flair/Arn, and didn't have the mic skills or the constant pushes to be considered elite. Definately brought the wrestling game though.

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Reply #33 - Mar 4^th, 2008, 8:46pm

The Originals, Flair, Arn, Ole, Tully and JJ. It all seemed to go down hill when Ole broke off. However, when Barry Windham joined up, after turning on Lugar, things seemed to get going again. However, by that time, Crockett was in financial trouble and things fell apart again later that fall when Arn and Tully took off for the WWF. I was heartbroken like I'm sure many old school fans were. Little did we know at the time that a great era was over.

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Reply #34 - Mar 5^th, 2008, 12:07am

I really don't get how anyone can find Ole Anderson better at anything, in any way, over Barry Windham. But that's just me I guess.

'88 Horsemen all the way for me: Flair; Arn; Tully; Windham.

Single worst? Probably Mongo, as Paul Roma was at least a wrestler. Mongo was tolerable at times but no Horseman.

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Reply #35 - Mar 5^th, 2008, 12:48am

Quote from Brad Stutts on Mar 5^th, 2008, 12:07am:

I really don't get how anyone can find Ole Anderson better at anything, in any way, over Barry Windham. But that's just me I guess.

'88 Horsemen all the way for me: Flair; Arn; Tully; Windham.

Single worst? Probably Mongo, as Paul Roma was at least a wrestler. Mongo was tolerable at times but no Horseman.

Couldn't agree more...except on the worst Horseman. I have to go with Jarrett. Has he ever fit in anywhere? Has he ever drawn heat(and the legit 'go away forever' heat doesn't count)? When I think of 'ol Double J, I see a single plain piece of white bread sitting on a plate in a kitchen filled with Filet Mignon.

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Reply #36 - Mar 5^th, 2008, 10:30am

I really gotta go with the originals Anderson, Andeson, Flair and Blanchard with the exception of Ole Anderson here's why...

Did Ole Anderson really need The Horsemen to solidify his standing as a JCP Icon? I think not by the time the Horsemen ever came into existence Ole was already a well established legend in JCP

On the other hand I don't see who else could've filled that void unless they either had turned Windham Heel sooner or turned Magnum TA none of which at that time was very realistic What do you all think this theory?

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S.N.O.F Rookie Posts: 12 Gender:	Re: Best 4 Horsemen, worst single Horseman.... Reply #37 - Mar 7^th, 2008, 11:50pm paul roma should be beat for the comments he made on the horsemen dvd. he was and is a joke. thats my opion
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JJWiththeshoe

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Reply #38 - Mar 25^th, 2008, 7:51pm

I can't believe most of you picked Mongo as worse rather than Roma. Mongo may not have had any wrestling skills, but he had that Horseman killer instinct they needed. He fit in at the right time. the business was on fire at the time he was in and at an all time low when Roma was there. IMHO, Mongo was nowhere near at the bottom of the list as worse Horsemen.

But, the best had to be Flair, Arn, Tully, Barry, and JJ. Man the NWA was so good in 1988, but after Arn and Tully left, it was never the same for the Horsemen or the NWA.

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Reply #39 - Mar 30^th, 2008, 2:47pm

Quote from gmrich on May 13^th, 2007, 8:35pm:

Quote from JBLCENAFAN on May 13^th, 2007, 3:20pm:

Best : Flair, Windham , Tully , Arn. Worst Single? Malenko...

May I ask why you think Malenko is the worst? I think this could be a pretty interesting discussion...

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He was just so small and had no mic skills. Benoit was small but in the ring came off like a badass. Dean never seemed like a threat to anyone.

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