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Jun 25th, 2007, 6:06pm
 
Lets hope this is not true.....
This is on the front page of WWE.com
 
 
BENOIT FOUND DEAD
 
WWE is sad to report that Chris Benoit and his family have been found dead in their home. Police are currently investigating the circumstances surrounding the deaths. Tonight's Raw will be a tribute to Chris and his family.  
 
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:16pm
 
family? as in nancy?
 
seems to me that with all the other stuff on the page, that it might be a work. if it were true, i would hope all the "diva" garbage and such would be gone temporarily (then again, it isthe WWE i am talking about to......)
my bet (and hope) is that it is part of the mcmahon storyline. tonight is to be a HUGE night for RAW so, why not bait us all with a big annoncement like this to make us all interested enough to watch...well, probably everybody but me. i don't watch the crap.
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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:18pm
 
I went to the website and it just looks like a real work.  If it were real, they'd have more details as far as Nancy, the children's age, etc.  In light of the Mr. McMahon angle, this just seems to be another thread in whatever angle their going with.  WWE is really desperate.
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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:25pm
 
UPDATE...
meltzer says it's true:
 
http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20000
 
dang, i might have to watch afterall....
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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:29pm
 
But is Meltzer reliable?
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:40pm
 
lets sure hope not????? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:44pm
 
WWE.om is now saying that tonight's show will be tribute to Benoit and family
 
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:45pm
 
Quote from JeffofNC on Jun 25th, 2007, 6:29pm:
But is Meltzer reliable?

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i think so, some don't. guess anybody can get in on the action these days.  
i never said dave was perfect either.
 
i just looked at a number of atlanta tv station's websites, i saw no metnion of it on any of them. i looked on their front pages as well as sports and entertainment and saw nothing.  
if it were true, i would think that it would show up on at least one of them.
 
then again, meltzer is saying that the WWE is announcing all this. he's not said any real new service or anyone reliable is. and we know how truthful the WWE is.
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:49pm
 
if this is a work, someone needs to put Vince out of our misery for real!!!!!!!!! If it's not true, then this is absolute bullsh*t, and I hope that there is someone somewhere that can put a stop to Vince!!!!!
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:49pm
 
Torch is reporting that they have confirmed through outside sources that it is legit, so lets knock off the work talk and the damning Vince stuff alright guys?
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2007, 6:59pm
 
All I want to do is pay respects to Chris and Nancy 2 questions if you don't mind #1 Were they still living in Atlanta and did they only have 1 child? I know they had a child named Daniel just wondering if they had another
 
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:19pm
 
I been knowing Chris & Nancy for an long time what happend ???
 just spoke to Crowbar/Devon Storm he is still upset liked myself  
goss all my friends are leaving Sherri Martel to Chris Benoit
 
I am lost for words sorry everybody
 cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:24pm
 
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:24pm
 
Meltzer was friends with Benoit and I can't believe anyone would even question if Dave is making a false report here. Very tragic and sad situation. A real shock.
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:26pm
 
I'm very sorry to question this please everyone accept my deepest and most  sincere apologies I just don't know what to say after hearing this  
 
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Reply #15 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:31pm
 
thanks for the link, kimmel. i see that it was posted on WSB at 7pm tonight. i was on that site about 15 minutes before then and it was not there.
 
my apologies as it appears that i was wrong. i meant no harm or disrespect. but given the nature of those over the WWE and their antics the last couple years, i wouldn't put nothing past them. so, i am skeptical. if i offend, well, i can't help it. they've made me be that way.
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Reply #16 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:33pm
 
i met chris while in japan back in '91 briefly. he was quiet and let tiger haguchi (is that the ref's name?) do all the talking to us.
but he sure entertained us in japan, and back here as well.
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Reply #17 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:38pm
 
I apologize, too. Like Bobby said, though, sometimes you never know with Vince. I can't believe this. I absolutely loved watching Benoit. He was one of the last "real" workers left in the business. My heart, thoughts, and prayers, go out to everyone that knew him and enjoyed his work. RIP
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Reply #18 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:40pm
 
If anyone needs anymore proof, from the Corpus Christ Caller-Times website:
 
http://www.caller.com/news/2007/jun/25/wwe-cancels-show-american-bank-center/
 
WWE cancels show at American Bank Center
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Monday, June 25, 2007
 
 
CORPUS CHRISTI — World Wrestling Entertainment canceled Monday night's live show from the American Bank Center after wrestler Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their home.
 
According to the WWE web site "There are no further details at this time, other than the Benoit family residence is currently being investigated by local authorities."
 
Benoit, originally from Edmonton, had a home in the Atlanta area, where he had wrestled in the now-defunct World Championship Wrestling before joining the WWE.
 
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Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:44pm
 
This story obviously just broke.. so all the details are sketchy
 
if a local news station just picked it up  it is pretty legit
 
 
It just seems very whacky that Benoit left Texas
for a family emergency  
then is found dead?  something doesnt add up along the lines..
 
did he ever make it on the Road this weekend and show up to any of the WWE events?  
 
 
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Reply #20 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:54pm
 
We met him as part of the Wrestlemania XX celebration. He is a true legend who will be missed. I am glad I had the chance to shake the man's hand.  
 
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Reply #21 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:56pm
 
I've said this elsewhere. I wish this WAS a work. Sadly it isn't....
 
The following link is the first report of confirmation from 'authorities' as opposed to 'officials' (they were just talking about WWE confirmation)
 
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/fayette/stories/2007/06/25/0625benoit.html
 
If it was a work it would have killed the company....
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Reply #22 - Jun 25th, 2007, 7:57pm
 
I was a big fan of Benoit's for many years, but I still am not convinced.  I guess we will see once the show comes on tonight.  It still seems awfully funny.
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Reply #23 - Jun 25th, 2007, 8:04pm
 
Ok, I guess unfortunately I am eating crow on this one.  With VKM on TV looks like it is true.
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Reply #24 - Jun 25th, 2007, 8:16pm
 
Two words come to mind...Shock and sadness. The story has just now been in the local Atlanta news sites and I am still in disbelief.  This is such a tremendous loss because he was one of the few true technical wrestlers around.  I met him at a signing and he was a really cool guy. He was not the biggest guy in the locker room, but he made up for that in drive and talent. He will surely be missed. My prayers go out to his entire family.
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Reply #25 - Jun 25th, 2007, 8:42pm
 
I just put Raw on and I am sick and  cry like hell. This was my all time wrestler. He took so much in the ring and gave us 110% all the time. If you got to see him live you got one hell of a show. I got to see him in Greenville SC and Spartanburg SC. I loved to whatch this guy in the ring. Now this is just not a wrestler that has passed to young it is him and his family. The best to the family of Chris and God be with you... cry
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Reply #27 - Jun 25th, 2007, 9:22pm
 
As much as the world is "Anti-Vince McMahon", I for one think tonight was a rare show of class and respect for the loss of a superstar. Canceled the show, killed the lame storyline, and spoke with genuine emotion.  Tonight is a true Respectful Raw. Let's just hope there isn't another Rey Mysterio angle to cheapen it.  
 
 
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I went to the website and it just looks like a real work. If it were real, they'd have more details as far as Nancy, the children's age, etc. In light of the Mr. McMahon angle, this just seems to be another thread in whatever angle their going with. WWE is really desperate.

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Reply #28 - Jun 25th, 2007, 9:53pm
 
Rest in peace Crippler, Nancy, & Daniel.  We loved you.
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Reply #29 - Jun 26th, 2007, 12:04am
 
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Reply #30 - Jun 26th, 2007, 12:09am
 
Well, we are all mixed with emotion. I would like to say that WWE and Vince have pushed storylines that are not "old school". But to not know the difference between tongue in cheek "death" and legit news makes me more worried about some of you more than anything Vince and Co. will ever cook up. Vince never would push "dead children" and such. He put some little feds out of business 20 years ago and now he is mentioned in the same breath as Charles Manson and Hitler. The focus is Benoit and Woman and Sherri all dying with a week or so of each other , not let's knock Vince because he planned a death storyline and it happened to unfold this of all times. Didn't they "kill" The Giant at Halloween Havoc 1995? Isn't Undertaker a "Deadman" , Yes , it's entertainment and flipping the channels tonight you will find CSI and Law and Order and 10 movies on HBO about murder and dead bodies and violence. What's amazing is as we see our heros fall to steroids and pain killers there is no cry for anything other than more muscle , more bumps , entertain me dammit and if you die before 35 at least I got my moneys worth!
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Reply #31 - Jun 26th, 2007, 12:33am
 
I am reading reports out of Atlanta that authorities are treating this as a murder-suicide. Benoit may have killed his wife and son this weekend and himself on Monday.
 
ESPN has an article on their website that says that and Pro Wrestling states this also. My God, this is tragic.
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Reply #32 - Jun 26th, 2007, 12:37am
 
he might not push "dead children" but he sure will push helmsley screwing a long dead corpse in a coffin and people like you can call that "entertainment".  
take your psycho analyzing elsewhere until you look in the mirror.
you defend everything the WWE does, and then question me (and others) and our mental state while you accept what they promote? you need to realize, as somewhat accurate as your comments about other tv shows and movies may be, THEY ARE NOT PRESENTED AS REAL LIFE, they are presented as stories. regardless of what ERA of wrestling we are talking about, it has always been presented as REAL. that makes it different than the other stuff on tv and movies.
and you think it's wrong that i question a death that AT THE TIME i could not find evidence of after i DID research for said evidence other than a WWE source..you need to check out how you can not question the act of necrophilia and still support that which portrays it. now that..that is sick. so must be any that support it.
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Reply #33 - Jun 26th, 2007, 12:40am
 
Looks like the story may be getting worse. I'm a huge fan of the man, but if this is true, it leaves a huge black mark on his legacy.  cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
 
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The Benoit story takes an alarming turn...
 
The Associated Press is reporting that Chris Benoit killed his wife Nancy and son Daniel over the weekend and then killed himself on Monday. Their story is below.
 
Professional Wrestler Chris Benoit, Family Found Dead in Georgia Home
 
Pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and 7-year-old son were found slain Monday at their Fayetteville home, authorities said.
 
Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide, but said that could not be confirmed until the evidence was examined by a crime lab.
 
WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday.
 
A concerned neighbor called police. The bodies were found in three different rooms.
 
The lead investigator, Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope, told The Associated Press that the deaths were being investigated as homicide, and said the cause of death awaited autopsy results on Tuesday.
 
Pope said the three were found about 2:30 p.m., but he would release no other details about the deaths at the house in a subdivision near White Water Country Club.
 
World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that Benoit, 40, his wife, Nancy, and son, who was named Daniel, were found dead, but also had no other details.
 
Benoit, a native of Canada, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles over his career.
 
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the federation said in a statement on its Web site.
 
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
 
Benoit maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
 
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
 
Benoit's wife managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name, "Woman," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on its Web site.
 
They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of an ongoing storyline on World Championship Wrestling, the newspaper said.
 
Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.
 
The federal-style house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and double-iron gate.
 
Monday night, the house was dark except for a few outside lights. There was a police car in front, and two uniformed officers.
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Reply #34 - Jun 26th, 2007, 1:02am
 
Sir , I know we go back and forth. But Vince took the stand and said wrestling wasn't real years ago to avoid paying sporting event taxes. Also , with Tough Enough and all that stuff showing us how they learn to take bumps and stuff there is no way it has been pushed as real for quite some time. I mean random sets of wrestlers on Family Feud back in the early 90's with WCW rivals Rude and Sting on the same team up to "Weakest Link" with ECW/WCW and WWE people all on the same team have long proved and shown it's a work. Every WWE DVD starts with "yes , this is entertainment , but the hazards are real". Outside of Goldberg saying , "I don't know about anyone else , but my matches are real" has anyone said that in the last 20 years? How about Foley , Show , and HHH all sitting together in the crowd while Rock hosted SNL on week before Mania 16? We both love wrestling and yeah it's different eras , but Vince has never pushed it as real. And as soon as something  "real" happens we pray Vince is writing a storyline of Benoit being a killer because we can't face the truth
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Reply #35 - Jun 26th, 2007, 1:05am
 
Also, and not to be mean. For someone who "doesn't watch the trash" you are more than ready with examples of why you don't watch , yet somehow you have seen all of these "horrible" things. Sound like classic closet WWE fan 101 to me. In the end 3 people are dead and this was used as a cheap way to get a jab at Vince who woke up today not knowing what he was gonna find out like all of us will in the morning...
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Reply #36 - Jun 26th, 2007, 1:37am
 
tonight was the first time i have watched RAW in at least 4 or 5 years, i can't accurately recall. ONLY because it appears that the deaths is to be accurately true and that the Benoit legacy MIGHT be remembered with some honour.  
i don't watch the garbage, but I CAN READ. i read up on what happens on different wrestling sites and the WON. i know what's going on without giving the WWE any of my money, tv ratings, or anything else. i know about past storylines and stuff BECAUSE i read about it, and really, i skim through most of it. unless it's a reall stupid thing like necrophilia, then i slowly read the idiocy to make sure i am reading it correctly.
i don't have to be a closet fan to know what's going on. i also don't live to bash vince. i have to commend him for his performance on RAW tonight. the whole set up and everything was done extremely well. the only complaint i have is the lack of remembering Nancy. being as they have what tapes there are from CWF and WCW, they have plenty of tapes to have honoured her career more than they did. but that's a minor complaint.
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Reply #37 - Jun 26th, 2007, 2:06am
 

Fair enough , but it is true for here as well. Why not step up and post some stuff on Nancy yourself. I only know her from Robin Greene up until now. Would love to know about the Fallen Angel days and how she was introduced...
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Reply #38 - Jun 26th, 2007, 4:26am
 
Just as I expected, Benoit's a murderer and whacked a kid.......so much for him being a "legend" and a "class act". Roll Eyes I'm sorry, but neither of those does something like this. I stand firm on what I've just said.  
 
 
 
More On Benoit: Text Messages Before Death, & More
 
06/26/2007 by Ryan Clark  
 
The following is from WWE.com:  
 
According to lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department, in Fayetteville, Ga., the deaths of WWE Superstar Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel were the result of a double murder-suicide, WWE.com has learned.  
 
Benoit failed to appear both at Saturday’s live event in Beaumont, Tx., and WWE’s Vengeance: Night of Champions in Houston Sunday night, after informing WWE of a family emergency. Several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning prompted concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, VP of Government Relations for WWE, Inc. Hering, in turn, spoke with Fayette County sheriffs Monday, and requested that they respond to the Benoit residence to check on him and his family.  
 
Authorities representing the Sheriff’s Department initially had a difficult time entering Benoit’s new Fayetteville home Monday afternoon, which had been guarded by two large German Shepherds roaming freely around the property. Once authorities entered the residence, they quickly located the bodies of Benoit, Nancy and Daniel. WWE was notified of the discovery at approximately 4 p.m.  
 
At 10 p.m. Monday night, Lt. Pope held a press conference in conjunction with Scott Ballard, the district attorney for Fayette County. The press conference officially ruled authorities’ findings as a double murder-suicide from within the home.  
 
WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday. The three bodies have been received by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s crime lab, in Decatur, Ga., where autopsies will be performed Tuesday morning. Toxicology reports will not become available for at least two weeks.  
 
WWE.com has further information relating to both the investigation and the cause of death, but the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department has requested that WWE.com not release any additional details at this time.
 
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Reply #39 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:07am
 
It's just so strange. He's all over the WWE DVDS and WWE 24/7 it's odd looking at old pictures and thinking how he turned out. I mean , how does WWE handle this? Do you go on and on about how great he was or erase him (at least in talking) from history? Any praise they give him from this point on would look bad. I don't think they should make tribute shirts to a murderer. If anything , a fund for his 2 other kids and I don't even know how they could touch that one. I don't know why people don't take themselves out of this world if that is what they decide to do. Nancy and their son didn't deserve this because Benoit couldn't handle whatever it was that set him off.
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Reply #40 - Jun 26th, 2007, 10:55am
 
Only thing is that there are some reports also, that possibly Nancy killed their son and Benoit killed Nancy in a rage, then himself.
 
Nothing in this entire story makes sense, and it's so bizarre.
 
I don't know who to belive but hope that the press conference this afternoon clears some thing up.
 
I'm just in shock right now, and don't know what to make of all this.
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Reply #41 - Jun 26th, 2007, 1:18pm
 
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press.
 
The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
 
Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.  
 
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Reply #42 - Jun 26th, 2007, 1:22pm
 
This is becoming more tragic. Both TMZ.com and the Associated Press are releasing more information in the case. They are attributing it to unnamed law enforcement sources.
 
-TMZ.com says their law enforcement sources tell them they beleive Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday.  They think he smothered his son on Sunday.  
 
One source says Benoit sent friends text messages during Sunday's PPV, and might have been watching the show with his son before allegedly killing him.
 
The sources say Benoit hung himself in the home's weight room on Monday.
 
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ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
 
Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son. Steroid abuse has been linked to depression, paranoia, and aggressive behavior or angry outbursts known as "roid rage."
 
"We don't know yet. That's one of the things we'll be looking at," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard. He said test results may not be back for weeks.
 
Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
 
Authorities were investigating the deaths at a secluded Fayette County home as a murder-suicide and were not seeking any suspects. The official who described the manner of death spoke on the condition of anonymity because the information was to be released at a news conference later Tuesday.
 
Investigators believe Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife, 43-year-old Nancy, and son Daniel during the weekend and then himself Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three separate rooms of the house, off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.
 
Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return calls seeking comment. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.
 
Asked about the condition of the interior of the house, sheriff's Sgt. Keith Whiteside said investigators found "nothing really out of the ordinary." He said Benoit was found in the home's weight room, his wife in an office and the son in an upstairs bedroom.
 
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Reply #43 - Jun 26th, 2007, 3:55pm
 
WWE have pulled all Benoit merchandise / references to it from WWESHOP.com
 
Their have also removed all Benoit tribute materials from their website, with the exception ongoing news which just reports official press release etc
 
Can't really fault how they handled last night, but I think due to details that have transpired since that show went on the air, that the company should just cease operations for a week (at least cancel tonights show), and just show Best Of Raw re-runs in its place.
 
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In regards to the anti-Vince stuff, Vince is a very successful wrestling promoter, a lot of people dislike him because he represents the death of what wrestling used to be, and because of perceived creative mistakes....
 
I think there is import to that: post-WCW purchase, Vince has made numerous creative, booking & direction errors which increasingly show him to make decisions that are misfires, out of touch with want his fanbase want to see. He has also continuously made logical mistakes in terms of pushing new characters, storylines etc, to the point that - despite having a monopoly on wrestling - he has largely been unsuccessful in creating new stars, and the bulk of his wrestling shows feature mainly talented wrestlers who aren't over, with no character development, wrestling in front of completely cold crowds who've sat through years of interchangeable undercard story's/matches which go nowhere. Conversely - in some areas Vince continues to be very successful - as a promoter/hypester, in marketing, and some of his main event matches (at Mania etc) are booked very well....
 
whilst some of his misfires could be seen in badtaste (Hawk alcoholic angle / Guerrero angle) or just really really stupid misunderstanding of what his fanbase the public wants to watch (Katie Vick, a lot of the Diva stuff, Jackass involvement, McMahon death angle)
 
anyone that's been following wrestling for 20 years has seen bad, tasteless hotshotting angles that didn't work, sleaze or things that have been risque/tasteless/exploitative before.
 
But I think based on some of the comments here, people might was want to evaluate within themselves the extent to which they want McMahon to be a boogeyman that they can blame anything on....
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Reply #44 - Jun 26th, 2007, 4:03pm
 
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Why not step up and post some stuff on Nancy yourself. I only know her from Robin Greene up until now. Would love to know about the Fallen Angel days and how she was introduced...

 
i know very little of Nancy as the Fallen Angel. i have seen a just bit on tape from that time period. mostly what i have seen, was still photos in the magazines back then. and she was very hot.  
the Robin Greene angle..priceless. she played that role to perfection. and ya gotta admit...so did Rick Steiner. the "date" they had on the saturday night show was one of the best things i can recall from the time period.
Woman..didn't thrill me one bit. it got old to me real quick.
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Reply #45 - Jun 26th, 2007, 4:27pm
 
It saddens me to hear this news because he was a great wrestler. But its also disturbing how sick he really was. During the press conference today, they said he bound Nancy's wrists and feet and then strangled her. Also he smothered the 7 year old boy in his bed. Bibles were placed near both bodies.  
 
On another note I will commend how Vince Mcmahon handled it. He was in a rock and a hard spot. The tribute made sense at the time but now knowing that Benoit was a sick killer, there must be egg on the face of the WWE. Either way I'm not going to bash the WWE and Vince with the same old "he ruined it" stuff that is ever so the "fad". He deserves credit for the way he handled it.
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Reply #46 - Jun 26th, 2007, 4:35pm
 
This just in from the Atlanta Journal Constitution:      Sad
 
Police: Benoit killed wife, son, left Bibles by their bodies
 
Superstar wrestler's wife had once claimed abuse, filed for divorce
 
By SAEED AHMED, KATHY JEFCOATS, S.A. REID
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Published on: 06/25/07
 
Superstar wrestler Chris Benoit allegedly strangled his wife and child to death, and left Bibles beside each body, authorities said at a Tuesday afternoon press conference. Then, a day later, he killed himself in his weight room.
 
Outside of Benoit's home, Fayette County Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope said deputies went to check on Benoit after his employer told them that he missed some out-of-state "engagements."
 
Benoit on Friday had strangled his wife, police said.
 
Police said they are still looking for a motive.
 
Nancy Benoit was found dead in an upstairs family room, wrapped in a towel, her wrists and feet bound. A Bible was placed beside her, said District Attorney Scott Ballard.
 
A few hours later, probably Saturday morning, Benoit did the same to his son, strangling him to death as well. The son, Daniel, 7, was found in his bed. Authorities do not know whether he was asleep when he was strangled.
 
And then sometime late Saturday – several hours later, but no more than a day -- he committed suicide by hanging himself in the basement weight room, authorities said. He used the cords on weights attached to pulleys to kill himself.
 
He did not leave behind a suicide note.
 
Pope said deputies had not been called to the house on any domestic calls in the past. He did not know if the couple was in the process of a divorce.
 
Authorities found some steroids in the house. "There were some prescription medications ... that we believe at this time were legal," Pope said.
 
Pope said Benoit had text messaged a co-worker, who received it several hours after it was sent. Pope did not elaborate on the content of the message.
 
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said, "I don't think we'll ever be able to wrap around minds around this completely."
 
Ballard said he knew very little about the divorce petition that Benoit's wife, Nancy, filed in May 2003. She later withdrew it in August 2003, Ballard said.
 
"I think we are pretty confident it was a murder-suicide," Ballard said.
 
Toxicology results from the autopsies will take weeks.
 
The couple and their 7-year-old son were found dead Monday in their home on Green Meadow Lane just east of Peachtree City.
 
The couple had lived together since 1997 and were married in 2000.
 
When Nancy Benoit, 43, a wrestling manager who worked under the stage name "Woman," filed for divorce in May 2003, she alleged in an accompanying petition for protection from domestic abuse, that she was intimidated by threats of violence from her 40-year-old, 5-foot-10, 220-pound husband, who was known as the "Canadian Crippler."
 
Benoit, the petition said, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."
 
In another count, she claimed Benoit had destroyed furniture in the home.
 
On May 12, 2003, the same day the divorce and protective order petitions were submitted, a judge issued a restraining order against the wrestler and barred him from the family home.
 
On Aug. 19, 2003, Nancy Benoit filed to have the divorce and protective petitions dismissed, and both were.
 
Benoit's employer, World Wrestling Entertainment, said on its Website Tuesday that Benoit had sent "several curious text messages" to friends, but police on Tuesday said they had identified only the one.
 
Authorities initially had trouble getting to the home because of two large German shepherds on the property, the WWE said.
 
Sheriff's deputies were standing guard at the home on Tuesday morning, keeping back the media and the curious.
 
Benoit failed to appear at Saturday's live wrestling event in Beaumont, Texas., and at WWE's "Vengeance: Night of Champions" in Houston Sunday night. WWE then said Benoit had a "family emergency."
 
As news of the death's spread, the wrestling blogosphere erupted in disbelief.
 
"Obviously, all sorts of speculation are running rampant but I have talked to so many people and nobody really knows," said Bryan Alvarez, who runs Figurefour Weekly, a wrestling newsletter and Web site, from Linwood, Wash.
 
The WWE issued a statement Monday night:
 
"Chris was beloved among his fellow Superstars, and was a favorite among WWE fans for his unbelievable athleticism and wrestling ability. He always took great pride in his performance, and always showed respect for the business he loved, for his peers and towards his fans. This is a terrible tragedy and an unbearable loss. WWE extends its sincere condolences and prayers to the Benoit family and loved ones in this time of tragedy."
 
A native of Canada, Benoit maintained a residence in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the now-defunct Ted Turner-owned World Championship Wrestling organization.
 
He began his career in Calgary more than 20 years ago and had wrestled in Japan before moving back to North America.
 
While working in Atlanta with WCW, he met his future wife.
 
At the time, her then-husband drew up a script that had the couple involved in a relationship as part of an ongoing storyline.
 
Soon after, the two became romantically involved in real life and married. Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.
 
He joined WWE in 2000, and four years later, won its world heavyweight championship.
 
The family had moved into the Peachtree City neighborhood last summer, said neighbor Alaina Jones.
 
None of the neighbors recalled seeing police at the house before. Monday night, about half a dozen cars idled on the circular driveway. Deputies stood guard outside the wrought-iron gates of the residence. A car full of youngsters who stopped to gawk at the scene were pulled out by deputies, frisked and sent on their way.
 
The Monday night broadcast of WWE's "Raw" on the USA Network was supposed to have been a who-dunit into the "death" of Chairman Vince McMahon, whose limousine burst into a fiery explosion moments after he stepped into it after a bout in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., two weeks ago.
 
The organization scrapped the storyline following Benoit's death, and instead televised a three-hour retrospective on Benoit's career.
 
 
 
 
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Reply #47 - Jun 26th, 2007, 5:09pm
 
hey phinney, good to see you back here.
 
i understand what you said, but i can't condemn then guy and ignore the entertainment he gave us for 20 plus years.  
i understand the circumstances are different, but we still like Nirvana, right? INXS? tons of singers, actors and such have committed suicied and/or killed others yet we lke their movies, music, tv shows still to this day..i think we can still enjoy the memories Chris gave us.
 
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Reply #48 - Jun 26th, 2007, 5:17pm
 
Yeah but those guys just killed themselves, not a 7 year old kid. And the first person who says Roid Rage did it and he wasn't responsible, well I am going to just stare at you. With the time line laid out, he planned this, he knew exactly what he was doing, and that is f###ed PERIOD. He killed a 7 year old kid for no reason, and that will never wash with me.  
 
 Vince, Steroids, Alchool, ninjas, nor space aliens had anything to do with this. Chris Benoit, a man who was five foot ten inches tall killed a 7 year old buy by suffocating him with a plastic bag, hours after tying up his mother, strangling her and wrapping her in a towel. Then after doing this he stayed in the house for a few hours, text messaged someone the killed himself.  For that  I hope to God he is never mentioned again.
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Reply #49 - Jun 26th, 2007, 5:32pm
 
not meaning to argue, but i have to ask, so we can just erase all history? pretend that he never existed? pretend he was never a horseman? delee is name fomr all results? delete his name for all the title history record books?
i can see that many might come at me now with the idea that since i don't have kids, i can't understand where you are coming from. well, yes i can. i don't condone what has alledgedly happened. that is not what i was trying to say. what i am saying though is that none of us were there and we will never know the complete story of what happened here other than what the detectives create for us out of the evidence they have. but Chris was a part of our lives as a hero to us for all these years. we can't ignore that. none of us will ever want to think about what has happened. and trying to erase Chris from our minds won't change it.  
we all have great memories of Chris Benoit. i think we should remember the man in the ring that entertained us all this time. my opinion folks, no more, no less.
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Reply #50 - Jun 26th, 2007, 5:48pm
 
How often is OJ Simpson mentioned or his accolades celebrated? Never, and thats what I am saying,, Benoit should not be celebrated for being a great man or a great anything, he deserves to be forgotten just like OJ IMO. When ever I look or think of Chris Benoit, all I think about is that he killed a 7 year old boy.
 
Bobby you hate Vince, but just because of all the bad things he has done, you forget the good he has done. How do you feel about Jose Gonzales? He stabbed Bruiser Brody, and people have buried the Invaders tag team since then. Had this been the Ultimate Warrior, would everyone be saying we just need to remember what he did in the ring, and the enjoyment he gave some people?
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Reply #51 - Jun 26th, 2007, 5:53pm
 
I would (as far as the Warrior question).  
 
As Bobby said, when you take away everything; all the fame, the money, and the glory, everyone is still a human being.
 
We may know WHAT happened, but we do not know WHY it happened.  It is a sad occurence.  I, for one, will pray for the souls of the deceased and for the family and friends that they left behind.  I pray that God gives them the strength to pick up the pieces and move on.
 
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Reply #52 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:12pm
 
i can praise vince once in awhile. last night is a good example of his humanity shining through..
jose gonazales? i think like everyone else likely does..the man should be shot for what he done. but like benoit, i can't see ignoring his career like it never happened.  
as for OJ simpson..i'm the wrong one to get an opinion from about him. i still don't believe he did it. as for his career, outside of ROOTS, he never did anything of any kind of noteriety off the football field. and HERTZ rent a car... and nobody recgnizes history much in this country. most remember your name, but not what you actually do. it seems.
but dusty is the one i "hate", as you put it, most.    
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Reply #53 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:27pm
 
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i understand what you said, but i can't condemn then guy and ignore the entertainment he gave us for 20 plus years.

 
That's the argument that I've seen raging on a few message boards, do we still admire his wrestling ability, or do we consider him a monster and never watch his matches or speak of him again?
 
I'm not trying to start anything here, I'm just thinking, I had a friend in High School that had what they called a "psychotic episode" and stabbed his best friend to death.  It was three days later before the guy even realized what he had done, and was horribly distraught over it.
 
I'm not making excuses, killing your wife, and especially young child, is a horrible, horrible thing.  All I'm saying is everybody's so quick to label him a monster, and I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.  Either way, he did it, but if he wasn't in his right mind, I don't think that really makes him a monster.
 
That may not be the case, it could've been done in cold blood, I don't know, but the point is, only Chris, Nancy and Daniel really know for sure.
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Reply #54 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:31pm
 
Chris as a wrestler was good. Chris as a person is trash to me now. I have been told all my life you kill someone you go to hell , you take your own life you go to hell. All the RIP Chis is not right he will not RIP. IMO he is in hell , the man killed his own boy what the F*** is that. I have a 3 yr. old and could not see how I could ever do what he did. I think he had time to do this and he was not out of his mind with rage.
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Reply #55 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:34pm
 
I don't know, like I say, I'm not trying to start an argument or anything.
 
As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to judge him, because I've done things in my life that, while not as bad as what he's done, aren't so great either, so I'm in no position to judge anybody else.
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Reply #56 - Jun 26th, 2007, 6:42pm
 
I don't know how it will come out in the end but I personally cannot seperate Benoit the wrestler and Benoit the man when I think about him killing his wife, 7 year old son, and himself. With most wrestlers, when they have a bad personality, we still enjoy the matches and most can seperate fantasy from reality. But when something as serious and disturbing as this happens, it will be hard for me to watch a Benoit match and not think about it. I think its ok to still enjoy the things he did, if you can seperate the wrestler and the man but I personally cannot.
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Reply #57 - Jun 26th, 2007, 7:16pm
 
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Reply #58 - Jun 26th, 2007, 7:27pm
 
I don't see anything wrong with that, they have a good point, it really doesn't look to be something caused by steroids, so I don't see a problem with them pointing that out.  Especially since most of the news outlets seem to want to turn this into a "roid rage story".
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Reply #59 - Jun 26th, 2007, 7:30pm
 
"I'm not going to judge him"
 
Good point only one man can judge him and he will have all the say. We as man can only say IMO and what we think about the death. It is just a shock to me that he did this.
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Reply #60 - Jun 26th, 2007, 7:36pm
 
Vince has been asked, and will, apologize for the Chris Benoit Tribute
 
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Reply #61 - Jun 26th, 2007, 7:41pm
 
I think that's kinda dumb, I mean, they found out he was dead, and threw together a tribute show before they knew all the details.  I'm sure if they knew what actually happened, they wouldn't have done it.
 
But at least as far as anyone knows, at the time the show went to air, all they really knew was that he was dead.
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Reply #62 - Jun 26th, 2007, 8:29pm
 
one more reason for me to have it against vince.
there is no reason to apologize for this. as it was said, they didn't know all the details during the production of this show. my opinion, just go on with life and tv and be done with it. they can't take the show back. they did what they felt, at the time, was the thing to do.  
even if they did know all the details, coming on the tv and ignoring this WITHOUT REVERENCE to what Chris contributed to the company during his time as an employee, would be wrong.  
again, i expect to be one of the few to see it this way.
 
BTW..anybody got one of those Chris Benoit DVD's from a few years ago (or an Eddie Guerrero one since i am sure Benoit was on it somehwere) you on't want anymore, PM me and i'll give you my address. i'll be happy to take it of your hands.
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Reply #63 - Jun 26th, 2007, 8:36pm
 
Bobby,.dude, think about this, last night he put on a tribute to a murderer, no one gives a damn about what he did for wrestling anymore man, he killed his wife and his kid. Everyone is pulling Benoit's stuff, Toys R Us, Best Buy, everyone. The man killed a seven year old kid, and if you watch what Vince put on last night it makes it look like he was glorifying a murderer. Chris Benoit right now equals monster, just like that woman who drowned her kids, he isn;t a hero anymore.
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Reply #64 - Jun 26th, 2007, 8:59pm
 
I still can't believe he could have done it Sad  
 
Maybe someone killed them all and made it LOOK like a murder/suicide.  
 
SOMETHING  
 
How could someone like Benoit stoop to the level of a serial killer?  
 
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Reply #69 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:33pm
 
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Don't speak about Yates' like that!!

 
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you know, we don't need this to turn into an argument guys.  
we are friends to some degree.
kimmel, i understand exactly what you are saying. but they did what they thought at the time was the thing to do. now they feel they messed up.. move on with life and do the next show. if we aplogized to somebody for every little or big thing we ever done, we'd not get anything done cause we'd be too busy  
doing that than living.  
if they feel that bad about it, then just not talk about it on tv anymore. which is what they need to do anyway to sell their product..talk about the match on tv, not everything else in the world.
 
PS. about mike tyson...i like him just about as much as i do dusty. that's a tad more than i do vince.
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Reply #70 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:35pm
 
To me, it's unbelievable that SO many fans are giving Benoit a pass. They look to make excuses for him. Benoit is a cold blooded killer. Period.  
 
Road Warrior Animal posted his commentary on WrestlingFigs.com I am disgusted and disappointed in his comments saying Benoit is a victim of the business. The only victims here are Nancy and Daniel Benoit. The media blames steroids, wrestlers blame the business but I blame Benoit. His actions were premeditated.  
 
This whole circus is sickening. When are people going to wake up and see what Benoit was. A murderer and a coward.
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Reply #71 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:44pm
 
I've been away (out of state) the past week, so I haven't had a chance to post online. But I'd like to share my thoughts now on Chris Benoit and this horrible situation.
 
First, let me state that for the past 19 years, I've been a huge Chris Benoit supporter. I first started following his career in Calgary, then to Japan, WCW the first go-around, ECW, back to WCW and then WWF/E. To me, he was my favorite wrestler next to Ric Flair. So the news of his death and that of his wife and son on Monday was absoutely devestating. I was crushed.
 
This was before we learned of the details today that it was a murder/suicide. When I first heard of the deaths Monday, I suspected murder/suicide, but I wanted to know more. When I heard today, after arriving at RDU, the information released by the Fayette, Ga., sheriff's office of the gruesome details a few thoughts came rushing to mind:
 
1) Why? This is the biggest question that has yet to be, and may never get fully answered. Why did this tragedy happen? Yes, we all will have our opinions i.e., Roid Rage, a horrible human being with a violent temper, etc., etc. But will we ever know what led Chris to this point.
 
2) His career. What will people think of it now? Will they throw it all aside? Will they cherish the career up until the final weekend? I will always cherish the memories that Chris (the wrestler) provided me with his wrestling ability. I seperate that from the person. He was a tremendous performer in the ring.
 
That said, Chris (the person), if all the evidence proves to be true as we all believe it to be now (and I say that because that is all we have and have no reason to believe it to be any other. I certainly believe it being a fan and a reporter who has seen these kinds of domestic violence incidents happen regularly), but Chris is living in hell now. No two ways about it. Last night, before knowing any police reports, you could've caught me saying RIP, Chris, weeping the tears from my eyes and praying for his soul. I still pray for his soul, but I know the man committed the ultimate sin and that he will burn for that sin.
 
But none of this anwers the question of why he did this? What underlying information is there? I have suspecions that there is more to the story than we know. My main question is what was haunting the marriage, if anything? I suspect that the marriage was on the rocks and Nancy was ready to leave and that Chris couldn't bear the thought of that and thus took matters into his own hands. But that's just one man's thought. I don't know if this would've been the case, but it certainly would seem likely considering the past history of the relationship -- the previous divorce filing in 2003, the records Nancy has supposedly in a safe deposit box indicating Chris' past violence, etc.  
 
Chris Benoit, in his last few days, was a lost soul. That's a true shame. May Nancy and Daniel RIP. Chris, you have sinned in the worst way possible. To allegedly murder -- you have to say allegedly because there are no witnesses and all the toxicolgy reports aren't in yet (This doesn't mean that I don't believe he didn't do this. I do believe he did) -- your wife and a 7-year-old boy is unforgiveable. The only person who can wash away your sin is the Lord. But you have to ask for that forgiveness whereever you are now.    
 
Finally, as far as the WWE goes. It is handling this situation as best as it could. The tribute show last night was the right call when you consider the short amount of time that it had to put something together and not knowing all of the facts of what went down.
 
To eliminate the entire Mr. McMahon death angle is without a doubt the right call. It was tasteless to start with.
 
And, tonight (Tuesday, ECW), WWE is making the right call to apologize for last night's show because in no way, shape or form could I see Vince McMahon and the WWE making light of the situation and condoning the acts of Chris Benoit. I know they don't and will right this wrong from their point of view. And I say that knowing that I'm not the biggest Vince McMahon fan.            
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Reply #72 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:45pm
 
I'm not just basing my opinions on Benoit on the many many years I've watched him in WCW and WWF/WWE
 
I met the guy in person as well!  
 
And from that tribute, many many people who knew him had the same opinions about him.  
 
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Reply #73 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:45pm
 
JUST MY OPINION...NOT THAT I'LL EVEN BE LOOKING....BUT I BET BENOIT MERCHANDISE TURNS UP ALL OVER E-BAY...??? FACE IT THIS IS THE KIND OF WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW, AND NO I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WITH ANYTHING HE DONE, ITS SICK...I'VE NEVER MURDERED ANYONE OF COURSE, BUT IN OTHER AREAS I GUESS I HAVE LITTLE ROOM TO TALK, PERSONAL DEMONS HAVE HAUNTED ME AT TIMES IN MY LIFE...BUT NEVER TO A POINT I'D KILL ANYONE ELSE,ESPECIALLY MY KID!!!
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Reply #74 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:48pm
 
That's my point, we're not talking about domestic abuse.  
 
How can someone like Benoit just decide to kill his wife and child?  
 
Also, I don't think anyone should issue an apology for any tribute.  
 
Just forget it and move on.
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Reply #75 - Jun 26th, 2007, 9:51pm
 
i'm not giving Chris "a pass". i have the ability to seperate in my mind the wrestler and the person, something that most here can not grasp. maybe i am being a bit liberal here, i don't know. but i know that i have been entertained by this man since the first time i saw him. i can't forget that.    
i give him no pass, nor make excuses for his alledged actions of the past few days, if he did what he is accused of.  
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Reply #76 - Jun 26th, 2007, 10:51pm
 
i said i can seperate Chris the wrestler from Chris the accused. never said that about mcmahon.  Smiley
you know i have an unparralled negative against two people..vince and dusty. Tongue
 
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Reply #77 - Jun 26th, 2007, 10:58pm
 
But our current feud started when I said Benoit vs Lashley was five star and you said my idea and your idea were to different things. Now he's dead , what are the odds? Our feud started a few weeks ago over a Chris Benoit match!!!! People will get sick of our feud unless we bring back Baby Dolls envelope or something to keep this going , maybe I will write BOBBY in magic marker on the side of my head for our cage match , LOL! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #78 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:17pm
 
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Reply #79 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:32pm
 
Quote from Jimmy Kimmel on Jun 26th, 2007, 8:36pm:
Bobby,.dude, think about this, last night he put on a tribute to a murderer, no one gives a damn about what he did for wrestling anymore man, he killed his wife and his kid. Everyone is pulling Benoit's stuff, Toys R Us, Best Buy, everyone. The man killed a seven year old kid, and if you watch what Vince put on last night it makes it look like he was glorifying a murderer. Chris Benoit right now equals monster, just like that woman who drowned her kids, he isn;t a hero anymore.

 
I understand that - if I was WWE I would've just put an old Raw best of 2006 show on last night, or whatever. Even though they didn't know the details we know now, the fact that all 3 were dead meant it was highly likely that some kind of foul-play/controversy was involved. Plus the wrestlers were a bit fresh in grieving, and that was hard to watch (not something I'd be prepared to ask people to do) so it might have been a bit more sensible from a business perspective to just leave it until they new what happened instead of rushing through with the now traditional David Von Erich-style obit show. But I have the benefit of hindsight in making this statement. While they should've guessed the truth wasn't going to pretty, they were doing what they thought was the best thing atthe time, acting on the info available to them. If I was them I would just show reruns / best of tapes for a week or 2 then come back and start afresh....
 
Now in regard to the apology - McMahon should NOT apologize (as he didn't do anything wrong based on the info he had at the time), BUT he should clarify that fact, and maybe say that they would not have done that tribute had they known what they know today, as they aren't in the business of glorifying murderers. He should also say that the company is in the same state of shock as the wrestling fans, that they are all trying to understand what happened blah blah blah....
 
And on to the deal about what WE should think of Benoit....well, you could say 'maybe we should wait a few days before making judgement', but I guess the likelyhood is we will probably never know much more about the situation than we know now.
 
The real sad thing is: in previous wrestling deaths, whether the likely cause be drugs/steroids/illness, a person that we loved, who entertained us for years with their blood & sweat, died. There is no baggage: we can openly celebrate their lives, talk about our favourite matches, try and interject some honor and positive memory into what have often been 'sleazy' death. I think we usually do the right things in those circumstances.  
 
Unfortunately this situation is different....
 
Brother Yates & Brother Jimmy 'Chicago' Kimmel have expressed here the two 'extreme' polarizing views on the subject:
 
(a) Benoit is a murderer & child killer, whatever we thought of his wrestling career before yesterday is forever negated, the overriding factor is that he was a murderer, we should burn all our tapes and distance ourselves from his memory....
 
(b) the Benoit we knew wasn't a murderer, but a hard working, gifted wrestler, that entertained us for years with his blood & sweat & tears. We can't let the fact that he had a homicidal psychotic episode tarnish our memories of what Benoit meant to us before yesterday, as what happened wasn't part of Benoit the wrestler that we loved through the years, but a sad & tragic ending that we should forget about.
 
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My take is that there is truth in both A & B. The first emotion that hit me yesterday was that Chris Benoit one of the greatest wrestling talents ever, was taken from us in his prime - a huge blow to wrestling, WWE etc - as well as really sad personally to know that someone that meant so much to me in the Sport Of Kings died. Of course, when I thought that I didn't know Benoit murdered them - although, as I stated previously, you had to figure the explanation for the scenario wasn't going to be pretty, but I didn't draw any conclusion at that time (I actually assumed that they were all murdered by a 3rd party)....
 
The truth is its worse that if he just died in car accident or something on so many levels: we can't really mourn him the same way as with other wrestler deaths....ultimately however you might wish to empathize with whatever mental trauma & anguish Benoit must have gone through, it all has to pale in comparison to the horror that his wife & son must've gone through. As conflicted as Benoit may or may not have been, he had the choice of whether to hang himself in his weight room or not....he did not afford the same choice to his wife & son who died brutal deaths. Being that it was Benoit that I was a massive fan of, pretty much idolized, and thought he was a just the perfect example of what a professional wrestler could be (both how he carried himself in front of the cameras and, from all accounts, backstage - the respect and integrity with which he treated the sport), there will always be a part of my mind that will somehow try and empathize with what he went through - I'm sure others have felt the same - and you can feel this biblical anguish, how tragic it is, how he must've felt assuming he sat back and realized what he did, for whatever reason. That maybe one of the saddest things - to see someone you had so much respect for make such an eternal mistake that the only course of action he could take was to hang himself. To have your wife & son die must be the worst thing in the world. To 'realize' that you did it yourself, must be 10 times worse.
 
But its all a moot point - he caused it. He was the perpetrator and they were the victims. We can empathize with his mental anguish, or whatever the factors were to cause him to do it, and maybe there are no facts to empathize with: maybe he was just a cold-blooded murderer. Its only natural for us to do that: there is much tragedy - the sadness for the loss of Chris Benoit, the sadness for how he must've felt to have killed his own children, all legitimate emotions for all of us to feel, as they were factors in the demise of Benoit. But most of all we should feel for the pain & suffering that his wife & son felt, to be killed by their own husband/father, to be brutally strangled / terrorized / beaten (Nancy reportedly had some kind of head wound). Of course, the really sad thing may be that a whole immediate family died, that there is no one left to mourn them....
 
Ultimately whether or not you watch Benoit again, and enjoy his career/legacy for what it was as opposed to what it became, is down to the individual - and there is no right or wrong no matter what you decide. Obviously some people in and out of the business are never going to want to talk about him again. Again - there is no right or wrong....its whatever the individual feels comfortable with. Probably, in time, a lot of people will probably feel enough time has passed and not skip over a Benoit match on a tape they are watching (but it will probably never be the same).
 
But the ultimate and overriding truth is: whatever you think of the subject of these tragic murders now, 30 hours ago we had one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and his impressive body of work to enjoy. By tomorrow, Chris Benoit the wrestler, and his great body of work, will largely have been erased from history, gone forever....as a corperate entity WWE will are pretty much obliged to remove every reference to him, every product containing him, from existence. And they are probably right in doing so....
 
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Reply #80 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:43pm
 
Quote from stingmark on Jun 26th, 2007, 4:26am:
Just as I expected, Benoit's a murderer and whacked a kid.......so much for him being a "legend" and a "class act". Roll Eyes I'm sorry, but neither of those does something like this. I stand firm on what I've just said.


 
 
 
I have too agree with this statement.  
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Reply #81 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:48pm
 
Too sittingstill, with the information that we now have, I think point (a) now completely overides point (b).
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Reply #82 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:53pm
 
I still see it as a double standard that they're pulling off his figures when Jakks signs up Mike Tyson for a figure.  
 
I wonder, does that mean all the PPV DVDs will be pulled off the shelves now that he's gone?  
 
Say bye bye to WM20 DVDs!  
 
I guess if it turns out for sure that he's responsible, we won't be having a CS Benoit  
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Reply #83 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:54pm
 
Quote from The Hammer on Jun 26th, 2007, 11:48pm:
Too sittingstill, with the information that we now have, I think point (a) now completely overides point (b).

 
Oh yeah, I agree - that was my point I think....I was just trying to look at what other people though about it. Ultimate it boils down to the fact that he murdered his wife & kids, and we have to change what we thought of him, no matter how hard that must be....
 
And some people will find it hard to not at least try and empathize with Chris
 
The people who I REALLY feel sorry for (other than Nancy & Daniel) are people like Chavo, Dean Malenko, JBL & Edge....people that knew Chris Benoit as a brother/close confidante, but also knew his family as well. They can't mourn their friend unconditionally (one thing to find out your best friend killed himself, its another barrel of fish guts to know that he killed his 7 year old boy & his wife first)
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Reply #84 - Jun 26th, 2007, 11:56pm
 
Although I will add - whatever any wrestling fan thinks about it is a moot point. Benoit murdered his family before taking his own life. Whether you never watch a Benoit match again, or you are home right now watching the Hard Knocks dvd is of no moral import.
 
Nothing we do or say can affect the situation in anyway....
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Below is a detailed WWE/Chris Benoit timeline from Saturday to Monday:

Saturday, June 23, 2007

Chris Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE Smackdown/ ECW live event in Beaumont, Texas

3:30pm
A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and over slept and would be late to the WWE Live Event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, “I love you”. The co-worker stated that it was “out of context.”

3:42pm
The same co-worker was concerned with Benoit’s tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating “just call me back.”

3:44pm
Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didn’t answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE Tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker.

4:30pm
A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30pm. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event.

5:35pm
Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont.

6:10pm
A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20pm Eastern time arriving into Houston at 9:24pm Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event.

6:13pm
The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up.



Sunday, June 24, 2007

Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoit’s cell phones:

Text Message 1
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am from
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215

Text Message 2
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am
Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open

Text Message 3
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:54am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215

Text Message 4
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:55am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215

Text Message 5
Sent to: A Co-Worker who consistently traveled with Benoit
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:58am
Message: My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215

WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as, the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 pm Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit.



Monday, June 25, 2007

12:30pm
WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.

12:45pm
WWE contacted the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office and requested them to go to Benoit’s
residence

4:00pm
WWE received a call from the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office, advising that they entered
the house of Benoit and found 3 deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayetteville Sheriff’s office has secured the house as a “major crime scene” and that the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s Office had no further information.

 
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Reply #86 - Jun 27th, 2007, 12:12am
 
Those text messages are just erie....
 
What he'd done, and what he knew he was about to do....
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Reply #87 - Jun 27th, 2007, 12:56am
 
do we know for sure that Chris sent the text messages?
we assume that he killed them BOTH and sent the messages.  
the messages sound like distress calls to me. like whoever wanted the people recieving them to come to the house.
 
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Reply #88 - Jun 27th, 2007, 1:56am
 
Quote from bobbyryates on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:56am:
do we know for sure that Chris sent the text messages?
we assume that he killed them BOTH and sent the messages.
the messages sound like distress calls to me. like whoever wanted the people recieving them to come to the house.


 
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No amount of "Yeah but he did this and so on" can change the fact that he murdered a kid...a little 7 yr old kid man, that's inexcusable for anyone to accept.
 
All I needed to hear was"Benoit whacks family, kills self" and that was enough for me to say he's a giant pile of steaming JD Costello. I dont care what anyone says, you don't kill a kid and expect sympathy from anyone(no matter how fucked up you are).
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Reply #89 - Jun 27th, 2007, 6:37am
 
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Reply #90 - Jun 27th, 2007, 6:45am
 
As far as what the police have told us, he had most likely already killed Nancy on Friday and Daniel on Saturday before ever sending any of those texts. To me it seems as if he wanted people to find him. Either way I see no problem with seperating the Wrestler and the man IF a person can do that.
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Reply #91 - Jun 27th, 2007, 11:10am
 
Everything seems to point out that Chris was a troubled person in these last few days, from the death details, to the text messages (which do seem to indicate he wanted people to find them). You read that his son has Fragile X syndrome and it makes you wonder if Chris couldn't live with that fact. How much was that affecting the family and so forth.
 
I in no way condone the actions of Chris Benoit here. Will I respect his in-ring abilities? Absolutely. As a human being, while I personally could say whatever about the man, it is not my decision. It is with the Lord to determine Chris' fate now. Chris needs to find that within himself to ask the Lord for forgiveness, which he may or may not grant for Chris committing such a sin.
 
But as I referred to before, and not that it changes the final outcome, but I for one am curious to know as much as I can about this case and why these heinous crimes were committed. Everywhere you turn people are saying this is out of character. Yes he had the previous divorce filings indicating abuse, but not once was he ever charged with abuse. He had one DUI charge, that's it.  
 
I personally think that anyone who is condemming Chris the wrestler now, especially those who supported his career and enjoyed watching him, are being very hypocrtitical. You can denounce Chris Benoit the person all you want, and rightfully so. I will do that as the loving husband and father of three kids. I think Chris did wrong and must answer to a higher authority than me on that. But as a wrestler, I will always appreciate his in-ring ability.
 
Is his career just a wash now because of this act? That is for each and every person to decide, myself included.  
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Reply #92 - Jun 27th, 2007, 12:03pm
 
Notes from the press conference to address the Benoit double homicide-suicide:
 
Lt. Tommy Pope:
 
-- The Sheriff's Department received a call for a welfare check (from WWE) at 2:30PM on Monday. While searching the house, they discovered the three bodies.
 
-- Based on the investigation, they are ruling it as a double homicide-suicide. Evidence leads them to believe that Chris Benoit, likely on Friday, murdered his wife by asphyxiation. Sometime after that (probably Saturday morning), he did the same to his son. Then, sometime late Saturday or Sunday, he committed suicide by hanging.
 
-- There was no suicide note located within the house.
 
-- To his knowledge, Benoit was never arrested for domestic violence.
 
-- There were a lot of prescription medications discovered; they were apparently legal prescriptions. Anabolic steroids were among the substances discovered, but Lt. Pope did not reveal specifics.
 
-- He text messaged a coworker; the coworker received the message several hours after it was sent. It apparently contained something curious.
 
-- According to preliminary estimates, he killed himself several hours, but no more than a day, after killing his son.
 
DA Scott Ballard:
 
-- His "bizarre" comment refers to the timing of the various deaths. Based on the investigation, some time elapsed between each death.
 
-- There was a Bible placed beside the bodies of his victims (Nancy and Daniel).
 
-- There were no signs of a struggle; the wife was bound on her feet and on her wrists. There was some blood under her head.
 
-- Authorities have no idea about the motive.
 
-- There was no 911 call.
 
-- Benoit hanged himself with the cord from a cable-loaded weight machine.
 
-- There is no evidence of an intruder.
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Re: BENOIT FOUND DEAD?
Reply #93 - Jun 27th, 2007, 3:09pm
 
Quote from bluedevil71 on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:10am:
Everything seems to point out that Chris was a troubled person in these last few days, from the death details, to the text messages (which do seem to indicate he wanted people to find them). You read that his son has Fragile X syndrome and it makes you wonder if Chris couldn't live with that fact. How much was that affecting the family and so forth.

I in no way condone the actions of Chris Benoit here. Will I respect his in-ring abilities? Absolutely. As a human being, while I personally could say whatever about the man, it is not my decision. It is with the Lord to determine Chris' fate now. Chris needs to find that within himself to ask the Lord for forgiveness, which he may or may not grant for Chris committing such a sin.

But as I referred to before, and not that it changes the final outcome, but I for one am curious to know as much as I can about this case and why these heinous crimes were committed. Everywhere you turn people are saying this is out of character. Yes he had the previous divorce filings indicating abuse, but not once was he ever charged with abuse. He had one DUI charge, that's it.

I personally think that anyone who is condemming Chris the wrestler now, especially those who supported his career and enjoyed watching him, are being very hypocrtitical. You can denounce Chris Benoit the person all you want, and rightfully so. I will do that as the loving husband and father of three kids. I think Chris did wrong and must answer to a higher authority than me on that. But as a wrestler, I will always appreciate his in-ring ability.

Is his career just a wash now because of this act? That is for each and every person to decide, myself included.
 

 
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You said everything in my mind and my heart.
 
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Reply #94 - Jun 27th, 2007, 6:00pm
 
This will very likely keep Chris out of the Hall of Fame mainly I think because look at the Victims' Right Groups that'll cry foul
 
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Reply #95 - Jun 27th, 2007, 6:36pm
 
Booker T interview about Benoit situation from CBS affiliate in Houston
 
 
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Reply #96 - Jun 27th, 2007, 8:46pm
 
Quote from Jimmy Kimmel on Jun 26th, 2007, 5:48pm:
How often is OJ Simpson mentioned or his accolades celebrated? Never, and thats what I am saying,, Benoit should not be celebrated for being a great man or a great anything, he deserves to be forgotten just like OJ IMO. When ever I look or think of Chris Benoit, all I think about is that he killed a 7 year old boy.

Bobby you hate Vince, but just because of all the bad things he has done, you forget the good he has done. How do you feel about Jose Gonzales? He stabbed Bruiser Brody, and people have buried the Invaders tag team since then. Had this been the Ultimate Warrior, would everyone be saying we just need to remember what he did in the ring, and the enjoyment he gave some people?

 
 
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Re: BENOIT FOUND DEAD?
Reply #97 - Jun 27th, 2007, 11:43pm
 
Well , it's not that all of a sudden he had horrible matches and no classics. It's that now sitting down and watching Mania XX or Angle vs Benoit from The Rumble has become "I can't imagine killing my wife and child , what was he thinking" instead of "this is a great match , Benoit is a machine". Sorry , to me he is now a jerk because we didn't "know" the real Benoit. While he was making a rookie do 1000 squats for disrespecting HBK , he was flying home and being an abusive husband and telling friends he didn't want to be "a poster face" for his son's condition. Imagine how much his name and fame could have helped advance knowledge and help for his 7 year old boys condition. Instead he was a bastard injecting his little handicap son with growth hormone and "couldn't cope" with the situation. Tell me Chavo wouldn't have raised that kid , tell me us as fans would not have raised money so that kid would never want anything. The national outpour for this little boy made an orphan would have made him set for life. That child like Nancy wasn't given a choice to live or die. Benoit should have killed himself and let them live. Now we are stuck with "what if's". But in the end , he couln't handle his life and was a selfish prick for taking Nancy and little Daniel from this world.
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Re: BENOIT FOUND DEAD?
Reply #98 - Jun 28th, 2007, 12:04pm
 
Quote from The Hammer on Jun 27th, 2007, 8:46pm:
Quote from Jimmy Kimmel on Jun 26th, 2007, 5:48pm:
How often is OJ Simpson mentioned or his accolades celebrated? Never, and thats what I am saying,, Benoit should not be celebrated for being a great man or a great anything, he deserves to be forgotten just like OJ IMO. When ever I look or think of Chris Benoit, all I think about is that he killed a 7 year old boy.

Bobby you hate Vince, but just because of all the bad things he has done, you forget the good he has done. How do you feel about Jose Gonzales? He stabbed Bruiser Brody, and people have buried the Invaders tag team since then. Had this been the Ultimate Warrior, would everyone be saying we just need to remember what he did in the ring, and the enjoyment he gave some people?



Very well said.

 
That's nice and dandy about OJ and all folks, but it would be inaccurate. When a rusher closes in on a rushing title or a Bills' record, OJ's name is almost always mentioned. You can't erase history. Furthermore, while I agree that OJ did it and got off, he's not forgotten. He was prominently in the news around Derby time because he was there and so forth.
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Re: BENOIT FOUND DEAD?
Reply #99 - Jun 28th, 2007, 12:43pm
 
More on Benoit story:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/2007/06/28/2007-06-28_the_tragic_fami ly_secret_benoit_kept_fro.html
 
Seems to me the more and more you read about this story you will find out the stress and challenges that Chris and his family was facing, which is all I could ask for to know why this tragedy took place and not outright call out one person or another here.
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Re: BENOIT FOUND DEAD?
Reply #100 - Jun 28th, 2007, 1:20pm
 
From the AJC in Atlanta:
 
DEA, sheriff's officials raid office of Benoit doctor
 
Published on: 06/28/07
 
Federal drug agents and sheriff's officials raided the office of pro wrestler Chris Benoit's personal physician in search of records and other items in a warrant.
 
Agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration in Atlanta, said today that the raid at Dr. Phil Astin's office in Carrollton, in West Georgia, began last night and concluded early this morning.
 
Truesdell said a search warrant obtained by the Fayette County Sheriff's Department in connection with the Benoit investigation was executed there.
 
He said records and other items were being sought, but he said he could not immediately be more specific. Truesdell also was unable to say what was seized. No arrests were made.
 
Astin did not return repeated calls to his cell phone from The Associated Press today.
 
Benoit had been under the care of Astin, a longtime friend, for treatment of low testosterone levels. Astin said yesterday the condition likely originated from previous steroid use.
 
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office on Friday.
 
Over the weekend, Benoit killed his wife and son and then killed himself at their home in Fayetteville.
 
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the slayings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."
 
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Reply #101 - Jun 28th, 2007, 1:39pm
 
Quote from bluedevil71 on Jun 28th, 2007, 12:43pm:
More on Benoit story:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/2007/06/28/2007-06-28_the_tragic_fami ly_secret_benoit_kept_fro.html

Seems to me the more and more you read about this story you will find out the stress and challenges that Chris and his family was facing, which is all I could ask for to know why this tragedy took place and not outright call out one person or another here.

 
From this article
 

 

 
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Pro wrestler Chris Benoit and his wife fought over care for their mentally retarded son only days before the muscleman killed his family and hanged himself, a lawyer said yesterday.

Nancy Benoit had demanded her husband spend more time with 7-year-old Daniel, who was left mentally and physically stunted by a genetic disorder called Fragile X, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.

The Benoits kept the illness a secret even from their closest friends, but it created a huge strain on his family life, World Wrestling Entertainment lawyer Jerry McDevitt said.

"The subject of caring for that child was part of what made their relationship complicated and difficult," McDevitt said. "It's something they were both struggling with. We do know it was a sense of stress and consternation."

 
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Reply #102 - Jun 28th, 2007, 8:10pm
 
Here's the wikipedia where someone said his wife was dead before police discovered the bodies: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Benoit&oldid=140442953
 
The IP was from Stamford, CT
 
Benoit's edit was the last one he made using that IP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.120.111.23
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Reply #103 - Jun 28th, 2007, 8:29pm
 
Check out this. Lords of Pain. This is one more thing to shack up all of the things.
 
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Reply #104 - Jun 28th, 2007, 9:24pm
 
Apparently, from what I've read, in regards to the Wikipedia thing, is they don't really know if it was from Stamford, as there was something else about the same user doing another edit 20 minutes later, and this time it was linked to an ISP in Australia or something.  So I'd say they were probably doing something that messed with the ISP.  I wouldn't know, but apparently there's way of doing that, or so I've heard.
 
But even still, was this just somebody taking a stab in the dark at what the "family emergency" was, and it turned out to be true?  Or did somebody know a lot sooner than they let on that the family had been murdered, and leaked it on Wikipedia?
 
I read something somewhere, on another message board I think, that there were something with text messages being sent out around midnight on Sunday night/Monday morning.
 
If they say that Chris died sometime late Saturday or early Sunday, well then that doesn't make much sense at all.  I can see the text messages not ARRIVING to the recipient until a day or two later, but the way this thing was worded sounded like the message was SENT around midnight on Sunday/Monday.
 
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Reply #105 - Jun 28th, 2007, 9:50pm
 
No I believe they said the IP may (or may not) have been spoofed. Cause the "user" could not have made another edit since he wasn't logged in when making the edits. And you can see the other edits he did make using that IP
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Reply #106 - Jun 29th, 2007, 4:51am
 
This was from a fan on Fri. before he killed them , she got an autograph and pict. in the Dr. office.
 
 
 
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Reply #107 - Jun 29th, 2007, 5:55am
 
I haven't made a comment about this tragedy on here and i won't.  I just feel i don't have it in me to make a post on all of this.  I will discuss it with friends and i am all on top of the story and whatnot.  But i just don't have it in me to sit down and put my thoughts and words in order in regards to this terrible tragedy.  Anyways, in regards to this wikipedia story, i noticed that this was not addressed and cleared up yet so for anyone who hasn't seen or heard yet....
 
 
 
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_mystery_editor_confesses:_claims_%22ter rible_coincidence%22  
 
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Reply #108 - Jun 29th, 2007, 11:31am
 
I was thinking last night, especially with all of the national news media (which is totally screwing up this story) and all that the best for all of us is to move forward and hopefully this story can be put to rest sooner rather than later.
 
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