i was there.

In 1990 I just knew that was going to be the final nudge to propel Sting into superstardom and possibly even surpass Hulk Hogan as the biggets name in wrestling. The matches with Ric Flair were red hot and the NWA had so many great contenders for him to work with after the Flair feud ran its course. It just never seemed to work out. However, for all of the comparisons between he Sting and the Ultimate Warrior, who happened to be WWF Champion at the time, Sting's work in thre ring was far superior and over the long haul Sting meant a hundred times more to the business than Warrior. At least Sting was reliable and would show up and work at all of his bookings without holding up TBS for more money at showtime.  
 

Quote from JBLCENAFAN on Jul 8^th, 2007, 4:52pm:

 
 
 What are you smokin? At that time(1990), you might be right about who was bigger, Sting had pretty much just started to build a legitimacy as a WT contender/champ then. However, 13 world titles later? and Sting becoming one of the biggest stars ever? I think "Overall", Sting wins it by a mile. He had some great fueds with: Rude/Vader/Muta/Flair/Horsemen/Hogan and a few others, Had a nice run in Japan, not to mention won 11 world titles in NWA/WCW(not to mention MANY other titles). If you bothered to read up on your history, instead of saying stupid JD Costello like this, you'd know that. No sorry, you're right! He "Didn't mean much till he started staying in the rafters". You wonder why people think you're a clueless jackass? only someone w/ no clue at all as to what they are talking about(as is the case here), would make a comment like that.  
 
Im not saying Sting was the endall beall of wrestling, not even close, but saying he "didn't mean much until he started staying in the rafters", and not realizing he held just about every major title in NWA/WCW throughout his career, & made WCW a buttload of cash, is a jackass statement. Most folks will just stare at you & scratch their heads in disbelief & wonder at  some of the things you say, Like I'm doing right now.
 
11 time NWA/WCW World champ
2 time WCW US champ
1 time NWA TV champ
3 time WCW tag champ
2 time TNA champ
 
 
Yep! Great assessment! But, hey he didn't mean much.

Quote from stingmark on Jul 10^th, 2007, 4:53am:

 
Sting won 9 world titles in WCW.  
 
1990 - Beats Ric Flair for NWA World Title
1992 - Beats Lex Luger for WCW World Title
1993 - Beats Vader for WCW World Title
1994 - Beats Rick Rude for WCW International World Title
1994 - Beats Vader for WCW International World Title
1997 - Beats Hollywood Hogan for WCW World Title
1998 - Beats Hollywood Hogan for WCW World Title
1999 - Beats DDP for WCW World Title
1999 - Beats Hogan for WCW World Title
 
He also held the NWA World Title once in TNA.

Talked to Tommy Rogers recently about The Blade Runners.  Actually, as a whole on that period of time with regards to Rick Steiner, Steve Williams and others.  He told me that Steve (Sting) was pretty good early on, and had the capacity to learn.  He said Jim had two left feet--notice he left Wattsland even before the JCP merger?  How about March 27, 1988?  Sting works with Ric Flair to a time limit--bringing the house down, while Dingo/Ultimate/just Warrior beats Hercules in under five minutes (not counting the time he took to sprint to the ring).
 
I am in no way trying to bash anyone, but since we are comparing apples to apples, thought I might just share that stuff.

exactly
 
UW wins a 30 second squash match over the 'greatest Intercontinental champion of all time' , the HTM
UW wins a long drawn out 'Hogan made him look good' match at WM6 for the Heavy Weight Championship
UW runs out to defend Hogan against Papa Shango and Psycho Sid
 
Hey look I summed up his entire career
 
With Sting we can go on and on from feuds vs Flair, vs the rest of the Horsemen, Luger, NWO, ( I am sure missing most, to todays TNA spots vs Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, and even Jeff Jarret..all the while winning championship and title after title and the longevity of the career

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Actually, he's been NWA "champ" 3 times hasn't he? He won the title in TNA for a second time, before the change to just "TNA"(Sting (2) October 22, 2006  Detroit, MI Bound For Glory ). They JUST changed the title to TNA what a month ago?
 
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I know that, as you know, I know that. I was just pointing out(albeit badly) that Sting has had a very successful career, compared to Warrior.
 
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Dan, I know that, and have for some time.
 
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I know......we've talked/discussed this on many boards @ nauseum, where others have said that the "WCW International Title" didn't count? Then I said it did, which it does. It was still the WT, just not a part of the NWA at the time.
 

...Let us not forget Sting's first title - World TV champ in 1989 on "old school" Saturday night TBS wrestling...  I believe that was the last show they had at the old building...

I know this is a little off topic, but that was a great feud, and even though unexpected, was much more intense than it would look...  The Road Warriors had the image of complete toughness, and the Varsity Club, well, a bunch of spoiled college boys with a bit of a mean streak...  

Sting is far better than Warriror.  Sting didn't have the WWF hyping him as Warrior did.  Sting had classic matches with Flair, Vader, Foley, Sid & Windham.  It wasn't until he fought Vader that I believe the boys in the back took him seriously.  I bet they thought he was just hype but he got in there with the biggest bruiser at that time and took it to him.  Vader was laying some serious shots on Sting in their matches.

Quote from stingerfan on Aug 25^th, 2007, 3:13pm:

 
The NWA did not cease to exist. Even though there were no more NWA territories left in the U.S. (with the exception of Portland), it still existed on paper as a legal entity and it's remaining members continued to recognize the title even after World Championship Wrestling started calling it the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. In fact, it is alleged that the reason WCW dropped the NWA name was because what was left of the NWA was causing them some problems. Flair mentions this in his book and on his DVD. There was also mention of a legal dispute betwen Turner's WCW and the NWA board (listed as "Jim Crockett Promotions", Don Owen, Steve Rickard, Elliot Murnick, Shohei Baba, and Fred Ward) in an edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter from November 1990.
 
Also, if you watch the Sting-Black Scorpion match from Starrcade '90 Jim Ross says that if the Scorpion beats Sting he would be the 1st World Champion in WCW history. I do know for sure that after Flair won it back in January '91 it was consistently being called the WCW World Heavyweight Championship.  
 
As for the WWA Title, I don't count that as a "legit" world championship.

Quote from stingerfan on Aug 27^th, 2007, 5:36pm:

 
There's a point during the match at Starrcade where Ross and Paul E. are talking about what would happen if the Scorpion won and Ross says "he's the 1st World Champion in WCW history". Here it is on You Tube. He says it at the 2:05 mark.
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AeWgx5zmgw
 
Fwiw, here's also a Wrestling Wrap-Up segment w/ Gordon Solie where he refers to Sting as "World Championship Wrestling's heavyweight champion".
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt7EXn5zOcI
 
My guess is Flair may have been recognized as the first official WCW World Heavyweight Champion because he was the first person that was consistently called such. However, seems like the NWA name was gone altogether from WCW by December '90.