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Should the Crockett Cup should have stayed around? (Read 2000 times)
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Should the Crockett Cup should have stayed around?
Feb 16th, 2008, 8:03pm
 
Man, this was one of my favorite events! 3 years was not enough. I know when Turner bought Crockett Promotions it wouldn't have made sense to keep the Cup going, but that event was different and innovative like no other. It would have made an awesome PPV. I know it was a two day event that would have done well. My favorite Crockett Cup was the 1987 one.
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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2008, 8:05pm
 
I agree...I'm a mark for tag teams and tournaments, plus to get a Flair World Title defense? I'd have loved for it to stay around, then again I wish Crockett didn't have to sell to Billionaire Ted.
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Reply #2 - Feb 17th, 2008, 10:55pm
 
thats the biggest statement,your last comment....."i wish crockett didn't sell to turner'!!!! so true
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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2008, 1:31am
 
I definitely agree it should have stayed around. Those were very good deals. I love the first one the most because it was teams from all around. Something that wrestling misses today without a doubt. Does anyone know whatever happened to the trophy for those deals? I thought that was the best trophy ever.
 
And I definitely wish that Crockett would have never sold to Turner but we have to thank either Dusty or the accountant (Dustys version of it anyhow) for the reason that came about. My opinion anyhow.
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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2008, 6:15pm
 
I think it was probably a good idea to discontinue it. Aside from the fact that Turner bought the promotion, the last tourney they had in 1988 was pretty disorganized.
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Reply #5 - Feb 18th, 2008, 11:27pm
 
I am pretty sure Dusty was more worried with getting his fat a$$ in the Midnight Rider outfit than actually booking the matches right. Is this the tournament (the final Crockett Cup) where The Sheepherders worked two times and lost both times???
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2008, 12:17am
 
The Sheephearders didn't lose twice, but did wrestle twice in the second round. They beat someone in the first round (forgive me if I don't remember whom), but then beat Lightning Express in the second round before losing to the Midnight Express later in the round.
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2008, 12:10pm
 
Oh okay. I knew it was something like that. Thanks for clearing that up. I knew something really weird happened in the 3rd one, that is why I wondered.
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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2008, 6:38pm
 
To those of you who are curious The Sheepherders beat the masked team The Cruel Connection in that 1st match
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2008, 8:37pm
 
Only thing about the Crockett Cup is that if they ran it in 1989, I can only come up with 16 teams before you recruit from like Japan, Canada and the likes. Talent would've been an issue to run a 24-team tournament. Unless you use the 1988 version as a reference point, then you are using enhancement talent to fill out.
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Reply #10 - Mar 5th, 2008, 11:54am
 
I think if Turner coulda made it into a two day event and make money from it nationally. Say you have the first two rounds on TBS specials, and then the finals on PPV, I think it coulda worked and made money. I think the disorganization from the last event was due to the Barry Windham turn happening only a little bit before the event.
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Reply #11 - May 18th, 2008, 4:07pm
 
i have to say no.
i was at all six shows of the Crockett Cups. New Orleans was by far the best. why? casue it had talent for more than JCP. '87 was good, but all the talent (except for Takagi-BABA) were all JCP talent. even "new" faces like Bob Armstrong was an immediate JCP name.  
1988 should have never happened. sorry, but the Green Machine, Cruel Connection..Sheepherders fighting twice in the same round...all that should have NEVER happened. nor the "blindfold" match with Sullivan vs Jimmy Garvin. the only thing '88 was good for was the stroyline of Barry Windham turning heel. and that sucked. in HINDSIGHT ONLY did that progress the storyline. other than that, i felt ripped off. and i bet i am not alone in that feeling.  
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Reply #12 - May 20th, 2008, 5:28am
 
Quote from bobbyryates on May 18th, 2008, 4:07pm:
i have to say no.
i was at all six shows of the Crockett Cups. New Orleans was by far the best. why? casue it had talent for more than JCP. '87 was good, but all the talent (except for Takagi-BABA) were all JCP talent. even "new" faces like Bob Armstrong was an immediate JCP name.
1988 should have never happened. sorry, but the Green Machine, Cruel Connection..Sheepherders fighting twice in the same round...all that should have NEVER happened. nor the "blindfold" match with Sullivan vs Jimmy Garvin. the only thing '88 was good for was the stroyline of Barry Windham turning heel. and that sucked. in HINDSIGHT ONLY did that progress the storyline. other than that, i felt ripped off. and i bet i am not alone in that feeling.  

 
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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2008, 12:13am
 
I say yea! I loved the Cup.. It would bring tag team wrestling to the level it needs to be
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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2008, 10:53pm
 
I have to say no.  The Crockett Cups were very good shows, but also very poorly marketed.  Go back and watch the tapes now and it looks like there were 50 people in the crowd.  I think the Crockett Cups could've been huge if they'd had a Vince McMahon promoting them.  But the NWA did not make the CC's nearly as big of a deal as say Starrcade or the Great American Bash.  A tag team tournament for $1 million was a good idea, but after three shows, I'm not sure that the concept was big enough to be sustained any longer.
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Reply #15 - Aug 12th, 2008, 6:55pm
 
My heart says yes, because I loved the Cup so much back in the day, but my head says no for obvious reasons.  My opinion is that it was overbooked, with too many jobbers thrown into the mix and passed off as legitimate contenders.  It was way overhyped for what it was, and could've lasted if the format was tweaked a bit.
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2009, 1:22am
 
This was a very innovative event and probably a bit too ahead of its time. It was also a massive opportunity squandered by Crockett, but that's just par for the course. When this 'Crockett Cup' idea was in its infancy, he should have immediately called Vince Mcmahon and Verne Gagne. Would Mcmahon and/or Gagne have taken the bait and participated? Probably not, but we'll never know because it wasn't attempted. Its 2009, and this is still the only event that had real potential of being a "super card" encompassing all the wrestling organizations at the time. It could have been considered "neutral ground" for all participants and each federation could have shared the revenue. I realize it wasn't likely to happen as there was a lot of politics going on then and each organization was at war, but Crockett(or someone) should have extended an olive branch. Had Mcmahon participated, this event would have been huge. There wouldn't have been world title DQs to end the events either.
 
Did anyone ever write a book about Crockett? Its gotta be a fascinating story. He was an expert at building beautiful bridges, letting people look at them in awe, and just as they're about to walk across them, he burns them to the ground.
 
Most NWA/WCW fans think Crockett shouldn't have sold NWA. I think he should have sold it sooner.
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Re: Should the Crockett Cup should have stayed aro
Reply #17 - May 30th, 2009, 7:12pm
 
Quote from KOCRoyal on Feb 18th, 2008, 1:31am:
I definitely agree it should have stayed around. Those were very good deals. I love the first one the most because it was teams from all around. Something that wrestling misses today without a doubt. Does anyone know whatever happened to the trophy for those deals? I thought that was the best trophy ever.

And I definitely wish that Crockett would have never sold to Turner but we have to thank either Dusty or the accountant (Dustys version of it anyhow) for the reason that came about. My opinion anyhow.

 
The responsibility for a company's finances has to fall upon the man who runs the company.  Dusty didn't run the company; Jim Crockett did.  It was a mistake to let Dusty have as much of a role in running the company as he had, but the blame falls on the man that allowed Dusty to have that much power.  An owner like Bill Watts never would have allowed that.  Watts knew the importance of a bottom line.  I wish that Dusty had only had a job as a wrestler and that Crockett had hired Watts to run the company, since Crockett obviousy didn't have the business aptitude for it and only owned the company at all because he inherited it.
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