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Reply #25 - Sep 11th, 2008, 11:34am
 
16times, those quotes are hilarious!!!   Grin
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Reply #26 - Sep 11th, 2008, 5:19pm
 
i am and always will be a Mark for Flair, but do you think he tried to go off the top of the couch and missed?
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Reply #27 - Sep 11th, 2008, 9:28pm
 
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Greg edit me if you want, but f*ck all you S-Marks as you call yourselves -this is a persomal family matter that does not concern anyone but the family. THIS IS NOT A WWE SCRIPT- this is the lives of human beings trying to live in the shadows of a -phenom- Ric Flair- and trying to find their place in that existance. I made mistakes -bad choices -whatever you want to call them- and had the Anderson name embarrassed by my actions, which were even more blown up by those in their ivory towers.
The S-Marks who had to further blow up- and tie my father, Ole, and even Ric in to my dishonor; again show no respect into the personal lives of this situation. Think of the high prestige your own fathers had which I would think is fair to say if Flair is a 10 most of you would have to answer your fathers were a 1 or 2 at BEST -and if you ever had to follow the path of being a megastars kid and actually have a f*ck up- which everyone does to some degree and then have it posted all over the news and internet- then have a bunch of jackoffs who have never come close to walking in the shoes of a legend and being their child. - Then try and get the scoop on what happened - or post their opinion and make jokes- is even more shameful on your part. I will never stop loving wrestling but I hate what it has become.
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Awfully nice of you to say "f-you" to folks doing nothing more than posting on a message board.  The people posting on this board are not the ones responsible for making Ric Flair's incident public, the media is.  We are all wrestling fans here, so don't go blaming folks for talking about something that is already known.  We didn't start the fire, buddy.  Calling people jackoffs and using vulgarity on this board is not right.  No, the rest of us don't know what it's like to have a father who wrestled, but you don't need to be judging people by insinuating that their fathers are a 1 or a 2 just because they're not in the spotlight.  THat isn't right either.  There is a lot more to a father than earning a high income and being high profile.  It may not be right for people to make jokes at others expense, but neither is it right for you to use profanity in referring to people whom you've probably never met in person either.
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Reply #28 - Sep 12th, 2008, 12:32am
 
   Garvinstomp I don't identify myself as Zan Panzer. That was a gimmick I did to try to make it in the biz as best I could, and I hated it. You prove your point as a S-Mark for bringing that low point up in my life to embarrass me. atleast I sign my name- yes I was Zan Panzer, Agent Steele, Young Gun Brad Anderson and I failed miserabley in full-filling the Anderson name.  
    I will always protect what my father taught me though. If you read my post clearly, you would have understood I don't have a problem with the messenger; it is when people take shots of judgement-  and have no idea what the families endure. Ashley, Reid, Meagan or David never asked to be brought in to this world as Ric Flair's children.  Everyone who wants to laugh and poke at the situation are the ones I have issue with. This was not "Hogan Know's Best" so don't expose the family as such. They did not sign up for a VH1 reality show. If I remember correctly Flair being at the Hall Of Heroes was the best thing since sliced bread.  Now he has had a personal family matter. Some of you want to make it 'the joke of the day'  
    I have always made myself available to meet everyone at the Fanfests. I love the fans enthusiasm as much as I love 'Old School Wrestling'.
     Since Greg called me out publicly in defense of the S-Marks I am as disappointed in him as I much as I am in those who don't respect a families chance to heal- they didn't ask to be in the media but ended up that way and they are just trying to find a peace, but again those in their "Ivory Towers" throw fuel to the fire by adding jokes and judgement and it is being accepted by some.  
     I take notice that some of my favorite and honored fellow wrestling fans have not added to this dirt, such as Baltimore Jack and Bobby Rates-several more I have not listed- some should learn by their example.   Garvinstomp -Greg Price has my # or you can email me directly and you are more than welcome meet me since I  use profanity at those I don't even know- let me get to know you.  If you want an unheard or behind the scene story about those I do get to know and disrespect the biz and how I do protect the business. Ask Greg Helms 'The Hurricane' about how I dealt a smart a$$- the blond kid from 'The Naturals"  in the hallway after his match when he crossed the line with me.  Let's just say he has a little more respect for old school now.
     George South said to stay off these boards because most of you are idiots. I don't believe him in that. I have met and communicated with some great people. Garvistomp something from the heart.-"Don't  call me out you fucking mark about something you don't know JD Costello about"  
           I appoligize to those of you I know-that I love and care about on here for this being harsh.   I will always protect what my father taught me, and for those of you who knew him it was -"Always protect the business, and don't take bullshit from anyone."
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Reply #29 - Sep 12th, 2008, 12:55am
 
Small story to maybe help some of you understand what a family in ths business goes through. I  don't add OPINION on these  boards. I always add my personal experience. Most people have never had some adult who seemed really interested  in you as a 'ball boy' at Jim Crockett Memorial Baseball Park' and trying to befriend you as a kid and try to make you feel like what you did was important at the age of 10 like you are real important. Only to realize they worked for the attorney who was suing your father in a bullshit lawsuit case by some 'wrestling fan' and they tried to prod you for something your father might have said. To bring him down.  Don't put your 2 cents in something you know nothing about.
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Reply #30 - Sep 12th, 2008, 1:16am
 
If you want to be famous , then you should already know you are under the microscope. That'd be like a Football player not expecting to get hit hard....
All Ole has ever done is bad mouth Flair , so anyone named Anderson is null and void of all rights to defend Ric.
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Reply #31 - Sep 12th, 2008, 1:28am
 
I would like to point out here that Ric Flair's "family" brought his "family" into this discussion when the family "fight" made the news.
 
In all of Flair's previous newsmaking efforts (road rage, gyms closing, etc.) his family has never been brought up.
 
I went back and re-read this entire thread. No one has mocked Flair's kids. I think most everyone was very respectful of Flair, and most even point out that it's unfortunate the kids are brought into this.
 
Those pics of Flair and Reid out on the town are from a well-known Charlotte nightlife website. Flair is the man, and I jokingly told him that at fanfest. There's no telling where he's gonna pop up next.
 
I'm sorry that my friend Brad feels I stood up in defense of S-Marks. I was specific in saying take it easy on the messengers. That's all we are here. We talk about the latest news. I wasn't taking sides, Brad. I just didn't see that S-Marks had anything to do with this, other than the fact that ALL of us here are S-Marks.
 
I think the world of you and your entire family, Brad. I have a similar respect for Ric Flair and his family. No one here is trying to say anything at all bad about Ric's family. Ric isn't hiding because of his shiner. It's obviously not bothering him, and I'm sure he can take whatever "ribbing" comes his way. Let's just all take a deep breath here and remember that we're all "family" here.
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Reply #32 - Sep 12th, 2008, 8:24am
 
Is S-Mark one of those "S-Words" from Celebrity Jeopardy? If so, I would like to know Mr. Connery's opinion on the situation.
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Reply #33 - Sep 12th, 2008, 8:38am
 
Grin  that was too damned funny!!
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Reply #34 - Sep 12th, 2008, 10:31am
 
Were political message boards not supposed to discuss the Palin's daughter issue once it was reported on the news? Most of us have probably never had a parent run for office either. This story was on several tv and internet news sites including tmz, Ric was on the nightlife website sporting his shiner. Plus his adult daughter is alleged to have assaulted a cop in a public place resulting in a public police report and taxpayer expense for the police, etc. I can't see why wrestling fans - even "s-marks" - can not discuss this any more than a political board could discuss the Palin issue unless you had a parent run for office or if you had run for office yourself. As I have said I would hope it is respectful discussion and we should all wish the best for Ric and his family. I respect Brad's opinion although I don't fully agree with part of it, I always thought he was a good worker and have great respect for his family as well & their contributions to wrestling over the years.  
 
P.S. Nice to know George South said "most of you are idiots". I hope he meant other boards, not this one.
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Reply #35 - Sep 12th, 2008, 6:54pm
 
I say this with the utmost respect for all my childhood heros.
 
How can wrestlers get paid by the tickets we buy, the tshirts, DVDs, auto'd photos, etc. and not expect us to discuss something we saw on the 6 o'clock news when it involves them?  
 
Is it fair to say that the term "mark" is obsolete?  The magic is over.  Someone pulled the curtain back and we saw what the "wizard of oz" really looks like.  It wasn't the fans who made the decision to fill us all in on all the secrets or "kayfabe."  The wrestling industry insiders did it...and padded their wallets while doing it.  
 
If protecting the business is such an issue then someone needs to give Flair another blackeye for letting some 20 something year old kid give him a shiner outside the ring.  Am I clear in the understanding that in the good ol' days if a wrestler lost a fight outside the business he got fired?
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Reply #36 - Sep 12th, 2008, 7:22pm
 
I know it sucks, and it isn't fair, but once your a public figure, you basically lose all your privacy and your life becomes an open book for consumption by the public fit for ridicule and critique.
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Reply #37 - Sep 13th, 2008, 8:09am
 
Quote from slingshotsuplex on Sep 12th, 2008, 6:54pm:

If protecting the business is such an issue then someone needs to give Flair another blackeye for letting some 20 something year old kid give him a shiner outside the ring.  Am I clear in the understanding that in the good ol' days if a wrestler lost a fight outside the business he got fired?

I don't know if every promoter would have fired you but some including Bill Watts would have for losing a fight. I would think that a family or person matter might over ride this. Since the internet didn't exist it would not have been public knowledge like this so they could easily have come up with a story that would have fit a current angle to explain a black eye.
 
Protecting the business was a serious matter at one time, but now it's near impossible. Personally I wish this incident have not come out and hope that Flair and his family learn from this.
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Reply #38 - Sep 13th, 2008, 8:24pm
 
I will say it is a shame all this happened and got brought out into the lime light. Ric Flair is a icon in this business and will always be one in my opinion. I hope to meet the man one day and shake his hand because he definitely worked his a$$ off to entertain us every time he set foot in the ring good or bad times. It is a bad time for the Flair family so that is all I will say on the matter.
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