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How Would YOU fix TNA?
Feb 15^th, 2009, 2:22am

We all know what TNA's problems are. The talent is there. The experience is there. They have TV. They can do PPV well(sometimes).

How would you fix it?

Can it be fixed?

Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will pass it on!

We need an alternative to the 'E'. ROH is great but I for one don't get HD-Net and they have yet to tour the South (VA/NC area). Plus they're not perfect either, but that's for another thread.

C'mon JBLCENAFAN, don't let me down. Let's fix TNA.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2009, 9:22am

I assume anyone can jump in here, not just JBLCENAFAN, so here's my 2 cents.

I'm actually enjoying TNA right now. I think their show last Thursday night, with the Sting/Angle feud, was thoroughly entertaining. I can't remember the last time I watched Raw all the way through, but I always try to catch TNA. This time last year it was just the opposite.

That being said, the red flags are there. Poor attendance, discounted merchandise, and fans leaving live shows shaking their heads.

If I ran the company, I'd stress real, old school wrestling. This example has been used a lot, but Mike Jackson's performance at last year's FanFest was a delight. Good old fashioned old school wrestling brings in the fans, old and new.

If I ran the company, I'd get real fan friendly. Let people know that when they attend a TNA show, they are going to get to meet and greet all the talent. This aspect of the show is key to a lot of people. It they knew TNA talent was going to be available, I'm sure some folks would drive hours to get to the shows. And stop the obnoxious behavior that's been described on other posts....such as wrestlers mooning or flipping off the crowd. Parents bring their kids to shows, and sometimes kids bring their parents. Either way, TNA is kissing that fan base goodby.

If I ran the company, I'd get the TV show out of Orlando. It's my understanding that the TV taping is offered as just another attraction to folks at Disneyworld. Is that right ? The fans in attendance in fact may have no clue ?? It's that's true, it takes a lot of the enjoyment out of "Impact" for me. I see the TNA tv crowd mocking the experience rather than really enjoying it. "Hey kids, it's the bad guy. Boo him !" When you watch Raw, you see thousands of fans who paid good money to be there, and their signs and actions when they know they're on camera show the excitement of the experience.

I think TNA has a lot of potential. I am so tired of WWE rolling over everyone else. I don't want them to be the latest company who folded to Vince. The fans are there. It can't be that hard to succeed.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2009, 12:03pm

My opinion is TNA has to be a better judge of the talent they have for instance:

Sting- Sting is a "Champion" or an "Undertaker" type of talent. Even if he doesn't have a belt he's kind of the wildcard character, every so often he makes a title run but more often than not he headlines PPV's and such.

Kurt Angle- Another legitimate Champion, got to be a heel not a face.

Samoa Joe- TNA is hanging their hat on a loser here. At best he's a heel, he's not the face of TNA and if he is then you can see why TNA can't compete.

AJ Styles- AJ can wrestle, he can easily be made into the "Ricky Steamboat" type of wrestler, a huge crowd favorite who fights hard to make it to the top only to lose time and time again but always gaining respect and momemtum towards his next title run.

Matt Morgan- Work with this guy, he can be a star. Size and talent is present so now he needs to work on mic skills.

Dudleys- Great tag team, not the leaders of the front line, I mean c'mon be serious.

Nash and Steiner- draws but not what they once were.

TNA Knockouts- Let the girls be girls. That whole Sarah Palin crap was the biggest waste of TV time I have ever seen. I just hit the remote when I saw that BS. The division has talent, just don't flip completely to no wrestle and all wiggle.

TNA's customer service is the WORST. Hire another guy to answer emails. Shipments are always late, no customer service to speak of.

This company started out all about the fans, meet and greets before the shows. The last show I attended all I heard was Total Nonstop Action and then they had a 20 minute intermission in the middle of the card. Is that Nonstop? Mick Foley showed up in the last few minutes to charge people $20 to come in the ring and get a picture with him. 5 others signed a few autographs- Taylor Wilde, Roxxi, Hernandez, Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley. Where's the other guys and gals? All about the fans right? TNA talks alot of crap but comes through on none of it.

There is talent, they could put on a good show but the writers suck. They have so many messed up storylines going in the wrong direction.

I think they should poll the fans that attend to get more input- give the fans what they want instead of the crap they are putting out there.

Just MY opinion.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2009, 1:48pm

I can add a few things, these are things that I don't care for in TNA:

Characters like the guy with the plastic Guitar Hero controller and the cowboy that's always pretending to drink empty beer bottles are what ruins TNA for me. I imagine you could find backyard wrestling leagues run by teenagers with better "gimmicks".

They are constantly flying out of the ring and jumping off the ropes to the point it looks like a trapeze act at the circus instead of "wrestling".

Awesome Kong - At least I can fast forward over her segments with my DVR, feel sorry for those that can't. I personally don't enjoy watching women violently beat each other. A normal wrestling match is fine, but I just don't understand why they insist on building a good part of the show around her.

I don't know if they still do this, since I very seldom can watch it all the way through anymore, but having Jeff Jarrett beat every wrestler that has any kind of fan base or following gets old, too.
And I actually like Jeff Jarrett as a wrestler!

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2009, 8:49pm

How Kurt Angle still gets booked as a comedy figure one week and a serious killing machine the next blows my mind. In ring , no one out there can touch Angle. But the problems of TNA are the problems that killed WCW. The undercard guys come and go and are taken off tv and thrown in random ppv matches for no reason whatsoever. Following any storyline like So Cal Val turning on Jay Lethal was a waste of the viewers time because she has not been seen since. They remind us over and over that the WWE is out there because when they are not out right stealing gimmicks they have Foley bring up his empty arena match with The Rock and pretend Sting vs Angle is gonna matter that much.
I think they blew their wad in the early days , AJ Styles held the world title when they were on PPV only. Jarrett , Angle , Sting , Joe , have all held the title and that is the top 5 stars right there. If Sting wanted a farewell match who would he fight Jeff Jarrett for the 1000th time?
You know Sting is gonna go full face and why shouldn't he? The failed Sting heel run also happened in that other company that went under. Various N.W.O. members : Sting , Steiner , Booker T. , and Nash are all part of what TNA heel group? And when WWE fires you TNA makes sure to let home grown talent go to make room for you. This isn't Hall and Nash taking a better offer this is Test , Billy Gunn , Al Snow , Stevie Richards , and others being fired and picked up...
The problem is that people like Cornette are backstage and are only talent and people like Jarrett and Russo run the thing and since day one Jarrett has been the star of the promotion and he has never been a proven draw anywhere he has worked. They need to cut people like 3-D and spend that money on some ROH talent , and the X-divison now reminds me of those Nirto matches with 6 Luchadors all hitting the same spots over and over with no rhyme or reason...

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #7 - Feb 27^th, 2009, 4:10pm

It would help if someone would sell a move , some of the guys hit a move that looks like it would break you in half and 15 sec. later he is back up and lands a move come on sell it like it hurt you and make a slow comeback. Push your workers that work not the old dogs of the past that can't talk. Booker T is one I would drop like and Joe would be the next.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #8 - Feb 27^th, 2009, 5:43pm

I would stop trying to be WWE-Lite. Only 1 company has ever done soap opera real well and that's WWE. They do soap opera better than anyone and attempts to copy them should not be tried. I would get rid of Vince Russo. I would promote TNA as a "wrestling" product where the emphasis is on the in-ring product. The style would be hard hitting like it was in 2006. AJ Styles would be my top babyface. Kurt Angle would be top heel. THe main event mafia would continue, but Sting would somehow be kicked out of the group. TNA would be the most fan friendly promotion around. The wrestlers would do fanfest related stuff before every ppv. There would be autograph signings and photo ops galore. Pay per views would be set at $19.95 a pop and DVDs would sell for $9.95. We would scale prices back during the recession hoping that more wrestling fans would opt in for "affordable entertainment." TNA would have "real" wrestling managers again that manage the heels. Wrestling women would still be around, but they would have to be trained as managers or wrestlers. I would bring squash matches back to TV and jobbers and enhancement talent would be on TV and helping to fill out cards. Angles would not be pushed through so quickly and feuds would be slower. Title changes would be teased. Wrestling would have heroes again and kids would have at least 1 to 2 "good guys" that they could look up to.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #9 - Feb 28^th, 2009, 3:42pm

Quote from GarvinStomp on Feb 27^th, 2009, 5:43pm:

I would stop trying to be WWE-Lite. Only 1 company has ever done soap opera real well and that's WWE. They do soap opera better than anyone and attempts to copy them should not be tried. I would get rid of Vince Russo. I would promote TNA as a "wrestling" product where the emphasis is on the in-ring product. The style would be hard hitting like it was in 2006. AJ Styles would be my top babyface. Kurt Angle would be top heel. THe main event mafia would continue, but Sting would somehow be kicked out of the group. TNA would be the most fan friendly promotion around. The wrestlers would do fanfest related stuff before every ppv. There would be autograph signings and photo ops galore. Pay per views would be set at $19.95 a pop and DVDs would sell for $9.95. We would scale prices back during the recession hoping that more wrestling fans would opt in for "affordable entertainment." TNA would have "real" wrestling managers again that manage the heels. Wrestling women would still be around, but they would have to be trained as managers or wrestlers. I would bring squash matches back to TV and jobbers and enhancement talent would be on TV and helping to fill out cards. Angles would not be pushed through so quickly and feuds would be slower. Title changes would be teased. Wrestling would have heroes again and kids would have at least 1 to 2 "good guys" that they could look up to.

This all makes sense so ofcourse they will do the opposite, lol.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2009, 3:37pm

I find it really odd that some people think everything that they are doing is right because the ratings they are getting. In all reality they aren't that impressive. They mainly stay in the 1.2-1.5 area, and never really go beyond that.

If I was in charge I would take the shows on the road. I would also make sure Sting the World Champion would be performing as well. He doesn't have to be at every show, but if he doesn't want to do house shows then he would drop that belt. I would make sure that the Frontline are put over in this feud with MEM. I'd be making stars out of guys like Daniels, Styles, and Homicide with these feuds. I'd also try to bring back Petey Williams and Johnny Devine. Those two guys could be the future of this sport with many of the younger guys that they do have.

And some of you might not like this, but guys like Nash, Sting, Steiner would more than likely be gone. I grew up watching those guys, and loved them back in the day, but they no longer need to be the focus or on top. If I did keep them around they would be made to make the new guys look good. Not enhancement talent by any means just make stars out of the up and coming guys.

And whoever does the booking and advertising for their shows would be gone. A year ago TNA was supposed to have a show in Des Moines, but canceled to have a show in Spencer. The attendance would have been much better had it stayed in Des Moines with more people instead of in Spencer in the middle of nowhere.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #11 - Mar 22^nd, 2009, 6:50pm

It's really a shame about the TNA product. I echo the sentiments of many members on this thread. The talent is most certainly there. I think the problem is the senseless gimmick matches, senseless storylines and the concentration on the older talent circa the latter stages of WCW.

I find it extremely odd that when there were rumblings about the poor quality of the product, Russo was not considered the problem. I suppose I would agree that Jarrett would be the problem to a certain extent, as he was the one that brought Russo on board in the first place and allows him to progress the storylines as he sees fit under his guidance.

I think with the current mindset, I'm not sure the current situation of TNA can be fixed, as the product seems to be focusing on people such as Angle, Sting, Steiner, Booker and other top guys. I think TNA had a nice thing going with the Frontline gimmick, which could have allowed the younger guys to get some air time and compete, but that seems to have fallen on the wayside.

One thing in their factor, however, is the way live events are produced. I was at one when TNA first came to Albany, NY . The concentration was purely on wrestling and not the gimmicks. The intereaction at thend with the wrestlers coming out surprised the hell out of everyone and got a positive reaction from all the people I both spoke to and overheard.

I think another way to get TNA noticed would be the concept that got thejm noticed in the first place. The X division. This was one hell of a novel concept and one that esxcited fans like no other. I was shocked and appalled but not surprised that a storyline was booked for Nash and Team 3D to get involved and wrestle in the division. That is just poor Russo booking at its worst.

I think TNA could survive, even with the big names begrugingly, if the storylines made better sense to the average viewer. Another idea that would help the product would be to have better booking when it comes to the PPV's and stop the million and half run ins, nut shots, baseball bat shots and all of the other crap that they seem to be doing.

I think Russo needs to be controlled better and his ideas filtered by those around him, such as Jarrett and Mantel. Russo is capable of bringing smart and innovative ideas to the table, but not every one of them should be ultilized, nor should he be the main person other than Jarrett to guide the storylines.

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Re: How Would YOU fix TNA?
Reply #12 - Mar 23^rd, 2009, 8:06pm

TNA (though we all know WWE is guilty as well to a great degree)has not created any breakout stars since signing all of the 'E' castoffs, and any young talent is only elevated to a certain level then either buried or forgotten about. How is Petey Williams not still there among others? Don't bring up Samoa Joe as he was already fairly established when he came in. Plus as of late he hasn't exactly been booked as a superstar.

So many aspects of this company are broken yet as previously stated, turn off the cameras and the in ring product shines through. It's a maddening situation, especially for the TNA devotees if any remain.

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chrisk Ex Member	Re: How Would YOU fix TNA? Reply #13 - Mar 31^st, 2009, 12:54pm I would fire Booker T Samoa Joe Scott Steiner Team 3D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon) Don West re-hire some of the guys they just let go Move to the booth Kevin Nash
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JeffofNC Champion Posts: 300	Re: How Would YOU fix TNA? Reply #14 - Apr 1^st, 2009, 10:23am I'd fire everyone over or around 50 Booker, Sting, Nash, etc... I rehire Gail Kim cause the knockouts division has simply gone to hell since she left Jeff
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The Hammer Champion Posts: 372 Gender:	Re: How Would YOU fix TNA? Reply #15 - Apr 2^nd, 2009, 1:20pm Quote from JeffofNC on Apr 1^st, 2009, 10:23am: I'd fire everyone over or around 50 Booker, Sting, Nash, etc... I rehire Gail Kim cause the knockouts division has simply gone to hell since she left Jeff I would start with that damn ring. Gail Kim is in the WWE so resigning her might have to wait a few years.
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halloweenhavoc89 #1 Contender Posts: 198 Gender:	Re: How Would YOU fix TNA? Reply #16 - Jul 2^nd, 2009, 3:02pm Give creative control to Cornette. Let the experienced players be managers. Let sting be sting...in the Mid Card. Keep Angle bear the top. Bring in some Smokey Mountain & Texas guys from the past. Get a 4 sided ring. Big bumps should be for finishers or luchas. Thanks
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Reply #17 - Jul 2^nd, 2009, 5:26pm

The reason I say bring back Gail is this How many times since she's been back with Vince has she main evented Raw or Smackdown and how many Pay Per Views has she worked answer none

How many main events did she work on TNA Impact at least 1 She and Kong put on a decent show How credible of a performer is she with Vince and How Credible was she in TNA?

Bring her back have her bring Neidhar's daughter and Beth Phoenix with her

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JBLCENAFAN Champion Posts: 1191 Gender:	Re: How Would YOU fix TNA? Reply #18 - Aug 2^nd, 2009, 2:15pm I'm not sure moving out Jarrett and moving in Angle is best either...
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