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Oops, Oct. 18, 1986, WCW mistakes
Apr 8th, 2009, 9:41am
 
We all know that the episode was taped Oct. 12, two days before Magnum's car accident, however, I just watched the opening segment and there were a number of little mistakes made.
 
First, they show the video of Dusty Rhodes and Tully Blanchard from Greensboro on Oct. 11 where Dusty "injures" Tully's leg. Now, I always wondered if this was down because Tully had a legit injury and needed a few weeks off before Starrcade or what. Obviously, it was done to sell Starrcade because in the video Dusty hits Tully's left leg with a chair to knock him down, then smashes his right leg 5/6 times before putting him in the Figure Four. Later, when Magnum ran in, Dusty jumped off the top rope twice on Tully's left leg. Tully is later shown with a cast on his leg left.
 
Then after the video ended, JJ Dillon goes on to talk about the show that night in Charlotte where it was "scheduled" to be Dusty Rhodes and Magnum T.A. vs. Ole Anderson and Tully Blanchard in a cage. Well, we know that Magnum wasn't there but JJ talks about the show and says "Ric Flair is in Japan, Arn Anderson has another match, I'll be in there." Really. I don't know if Flair was wrestling in Japan earlier that week or not, but he sure was in Charlotte that night, dressed up at ringside during the impromptu Dusty-Nikita Koloff win over JJ and Ole in the cage.
 
Just seemed to be some sloppy mistakes there.
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2009, 10:00am
 
Sure, but keep in mind that the company was in total chaos at this point, the worst situation since the 1975 plane crash.
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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2009, 10:28pm
 
I can see that if that's why there wasn't any post-production, but a lot of the "mistakes" here happened before the accident took place since it was taped Oct. 12 and the Greensboro video was on Oct. 11. It happens.
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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2009, 2:38pm
 
You have to remember that in the 1st maybe week after the accident no one knew whether or not Magnum was going to make it or not It was touch n' go with him for several days as it related to his overall survival
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2009, 1:01am
 
You guys are missing the point. This isn't about Magnum. This is more about the "mistakes" that happened ...
 
1) Working on Tully's wrong leg. First Dusty works on the right leg, then the left. Instead of working on just one leg and putting the cast on that leg. I mean he smashed that right leg with the chair, but only the left leg is in the cast.
 
2) JJ's mentioning that Ric Flair is in Japan and wouldn't be available for the tag match in Charlotte, yet Flair was there in attendance that night.
 
Both of those comments came before Magnum's accident. We're they mistakes? Yes. But they were mistakes that should've never happened.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2009, 11:12am
 
bluedevil I see what you mean Mistakes even before the accident not sure what was going on there There's a mistake in the thread too the title says WCW mistakes The situation was in 86 it was still the NWA  
 
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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2009, 8:59am
 
Possibly following the Accident, they called Flair to come back.  Due to the severity of the accident.
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Reply #7 - May 3rd, 2009, 2:07pm
 
Quote from JeffofNC on Apr 10th, 2009, 11:12am:

There's a mistake in the thread too the title says WCW mistakes The situation was in 86 it was still the NWA

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not to start an argument over another topic, but it was NOT the NWA. it was Jim Crockett Promotions. this is one of those things that irritates the crap out of me when people refer to this era as "the NWA". the sanctioning body was the NWA (in theory), but the promotion WAS NOT "the NWA", it was Jim Crockett Promotions, or in this case it could POSSIBLY be referred to as WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING as that was the name of the TV show on WTBS at the time. but this is one of those things that you can beat people over the head with with a sledgehammer, and they don't get it.
not coming down on you Jeff, i wouldn't do that. just bringing up a point for clarification purposes with my bias touch on the subject. my apologies if i offend.  
 
granted, it wasn't WCW either. good catch.
 
but what accident Sniper? there was no accident on 10/11 or 10/12 yet.  
 
i was in Greensboro that night and barely saw the show. before the show started, i got out of the car (in the parking lot across from the Coliseum and hit a small pine tree with my face. it hit me in the right eye. i was in pain the entire night. the next day, my buddy took me to the emergency room. they said i had a badly scratched cornea.  
trivia note, 10/11 was the night that "Ravishing" Rick Rude debuted at the Greensboro Coliseum. well, that is as Rick Rude as opposed to Rick Rudd where he had performed there back in 1982 as a jobber.
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Reply #8 - May 3rd, 2009, 2:19pm
 
Quote from bobbyryates on May 3rd, 2009, 2:07pm:


but what accident Sniper? there was no accident on 10/11 or 10/12 yet.



 
I'm talking about Magnum's Accident that happened.   They mention that Dillon is in the match, cause Flair is in Japan, against Magnum & Dusty Vs. Ole and J.J.
 
Since the Magnum Accident happened, Koloff was thrown in to replace Magnum in the Cage, but Flair showed up at ringside, when he was supposedly in Japan, explaining as to why JJ was in the match.
 
or did I totally misread things.
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Reply #9 - May 4th, 2009, 12:52pm
 
Quote from Sniper Niles on May 3rd, 2009, 2:19pm:
Quote from bobbyryates on May 3rd, 2009, 2:07pm:


but what accident Sniper? there was no accident on 10/11 or 10/12 yet.




I'm talking about Magnum's Accident that happened.   They mention that Dillon is in the match, cause Flair is in Japan, against Magnum & Dusty Vs. Ole and J.J.

Since the Magnum Accident happened, Koloff was thrown in to replace Magnum in the Cage, but Flair showed up at ringside, when he was supposedly in Japan, explaining as to why JJ was in the match.

or did I totally misread things.

 
 
That match took place at the Charlotte Coliseum.
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Re: Oops, Oct. 18, 1986, WCW mistakes
Reply #10 - May 4th, 2009, 3:30pm
 
Quote from bobbyryates on May 3rd, 2009, 2:07pm:
Quote from JeffofNC on Apr 10th, 2009, 11:12am:

There's a mistake in the thread too the title says WCW mistakes The situation was in 86 it was still the NWA

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not to start an argument over another topic, but it was NOT the NWA. it was Jim Crockett Promotions. this is one of those things that irritates the crap out of me when people refer to this era as "the NWA". the sanctioning body was the NWA (in theory), but the promotion WAS NOT "the NWA", it was Jim Crockett Promotions, or in this case it could POSSIBLY be referred to as WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING as that was the name of the TV show on WTBS at the time. but this is one of those things that you can beat people over the head with with a sledgehammer, and they don't get it.
not coming down on you Jeff, i wouldn't do that. just bringing up a point for clarification purposes with my bias touch on the subject. my apologies if i offend.

granted, it wasn't WCW either. good catch.

 
 
Actually - the title of the thread is fine: the subject is indeed the Oct 18th 1986 broadcast of World Championship Wrestling on TBS....
 
Now as for the NWA thing....this promotion, in my view, WAS called NWA at this point....I don't mean it was the WHOLE ENTITY of the sanctioning body of the NWA (although it was the only significant member promotion at the time), that's a completely different thing.  Jim Crockett Promotions was the name of the parent company (analogous to Titan Sports): they promoted wrestling cards and TV shows under the banner/brand names Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling, then later the NWA.  
 
The TV shows were called:
 
NWA World Championship Wrestling
NWA World Wide Wrestling
NWA Pro Wrestling (can't remember if that had started at this time)
 
not JCP World Championship Wrestling....
 
They clearly used the acronym NWA as the blanket brand name for their product from the mid 80's until the Turner buyout, when the name was slowly phased out over the next 2 years in favour of the WCW name, just as Capitol Sports/Titan Sports use the name WW(W)F, and Southwest Sports used Big Time Wrestling the WCCW. Everyone referred to it as the NWA, the logo was all over the TV and promotional materials, and it was listed as such in TV listings. IIRC correctly this was pretty much the case going back to them getting the TBS tv in the summer of '85, although before that they appeared to use MACW, JCP and NWA interchangeably. Of course the MACW name was phased out locally by the end of '86....
 
Obviously this was chosen as you had to have the 3 letter acronym as your brand name when attempting to pass yourself off as a national company....
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Re: Oops, Oct. 18, 1986, WCW mistakes
Reply #11 - May 4th, 2009, 5:53pm
 
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Reply #12 - May 6th, 2009, 11:49pm
 
Yes, obviously, it was meant as World Championship Wrestling -- the TV show. Why I stated it that way because that's the show it happened on.
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Reply #13 - May 17th, 2009, 1:54pm
 
Ha! I had NEVER noticed that Dusty hit the left leg with the chair, worked over the right leg, and the cast wound up back on the left. Good catch bluedevil!
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