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Best feuds that never took off
Apr 25th, 2009, 9:38am
 
The Road Warriors vs. the Powers of Pain
 
Tully Blanchard and Arn Anderson vs. The Midnight Express. This is one feud that stopped before it got started. I was ready to see Tully and Arn battle Booby Eaton and Stan Lane. Before you knew it, Tully and Arn were gone. I also wanted to see JJ Dillon and Jim Cornette go at it. I was so pissed when Arn and Tully left the NWA, I really felt they belong there.
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Re: Best feuds that never took off
Reply #1 - Apr 25th, 2009, 10:06am
 
I agree 100% with the Tully/Arn vs. Midnight Express fued. That had the makings of a classic feud. Too bad Crockett was in a weak position financially at the time.
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Reply #2 - May 9th, 2009, 7:21am
 
Not necessarily a feud, but Crockett(and Dusty?) dropped the ball big time on that incident between Flair, the Horsemen, the Russians, and Dusty.  Flair was wrestling Nikita in a cage, and Ivan and Kruschev interfered. Dusty ran in and saved Flair, which obviously was a shocker. Then the Horsemen came in and they 'injured' Dusty.
 
Talk about missed opportunity. A Flair-Dusty union(regardless of its length) would have sent shockwaves through the wrestling world. Instead, we just got more Dusty vs Flair crap.
 
 
Crockett never realized how great his product was. So superior to what WWF was offering in the mid 80's, but he mismanaged it. Regardless of booking issues and things of that nature, NWA should have went national in 1985. Staying on the east coast was pure idiocy and its no surprise Mcmahon eventually monopolized the industry. I remember watching NWA/WCW and just dying to go see it live(I live in Cali). Nope. Not a chance. Instead, people in Cali went to arenas to see Hogan fight Bundy, Moraco, Studd,etc.
 
Regarding the Midnight Express and Tully and Arne, I remember the exact moment that first happened. My cousins and I were at the arcade/pool hall and they had wrestling on their tv. The Midnights confronted Tully and Arne, and every single person in the building had their eyes glued to the screen for that segment. Once it was over, everyone went back to what they were doing.
 
Like I said, missed opportunities. If one arcade full of people of all ages were interested in that, it was probably like that everywhere. Also, whenever major events would happen, the whole school would talk about it for days, including the teachers. Wrestling was magical back then and pop culture was embracing it. Crockett just let it rot on the vine when it should have been thriving.
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Reply #3 - May 30th, 2009, 9:22pm
 
best feuds that never really took off:
 
Nikita Koloff vs. Lex Luger (over the U.S. Heavyweight Title)
 
Road Warriors vs. Skyscrapers
 
Jimmy Garvin vs. Kevin Sullivan (it could've been a lot more than it was, even after GAB '88)
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 2nd, 2009, 12:12am
 
I would've loved to have seen Dusty work with Ron Garvin when Garvin turned on Dusty.  Didn't Garvin go to the WWF a few weeks after he turned heel?
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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:17am
 
Actually, Garvin ended up in the AWA and WWC after he left the NWA. He did that until the end of '88, that's when he went to the WWF.
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Reply #6 - Jun 3rd, 2009, 8:06am
 
Flair and Hogan in 1991/92 in WWF!  How could Vince have not capitalized on that!?!?  That should have been the biggest match of the decade!
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Reply #7 - Jun 3rd, 2009, 2:12pm
 
The Midnight express and Jim Cornette vs Orinal Midnight Express and Dangerously in 1988 was good but thought had the potenial to be as big as the mx vs rock'n' roll but idied only months after it started..Also thought it would have been better if condrrey ended the fued rather than victory
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Reply #8 - Jun 5th, 2009, 11:23pm
 
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Magnum TA vs. Jimmy Garvin (unfortunately got cut short due to the accident but would have sent him into the deal with Flair)
Road Warriors vs. Powers of Pain
Tully/Arn vs. Midnights
Midnights vs. Original Midnights
Manny Fernandez vs. Jimmy Valiant (he did the turn but not too much after that)
Dusty vs. Ronnie Garvin
Barry Windham vs. Bam Bam Bigelow
 
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I agree, this should have been built up to Wrestlemania. I would have hada few verbal confortations without them touching until maybe Royal Rumble time in the Rumble in order to build up the match at Mania. I think Vince was thinking $$$ signs early as I think the business was in a decline at that stage and wanted to put the match on at house shows early. But realistically, he could have done the rematches after the mania match and still did good. That is the way I see it anyhow, it could have went down differently than what I think.
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Reply #9 - Jun 6th, 2009, 5:19am
 
Quote from KOCRoyal on Jun 5th, 2009, 11:23pm:
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Magnum TA vs. Jimmy Garvin (unfortunately got cut short due to the accident but would have sent him into the deal with Flair)
Road Warriors vs. Powers of Pain
Tully/Arn vs. Midnights
Midnights vs. Original Midnights
Manny Fernandez vs. Jimmy Valiant (he did the turn but not too much after that)
Dusty vs. Ronnie Garvin
Barry Windham vs. Bam Bam Bigelow

On the Flair vs. Hogan deal:

I agree, this should have been built up to Wrestlemania. I would have hada few verbal confortations without them touching until maybe Royal Rumble time in the Rumble in order to build up the match at Mania. I think Vince was thinking $$$ signs early as I think the business was in a decline at that stage and wanted to put the match on at house shows early. But realistically, he could have done the rematches after the mania match and still did good. That is the way I see it anyhow, it could have went down differently than what I think.

 
Flair and Hogan never had any PPV matches during Flair's 1991-1992 run in WWF, just s few house show matches like you said, and Vince had the top wrestler of each of the two big promotions throughout the previous decade.  
 
When Flair and Hogan finally faced each other on PPV in WCW several years later, both men were well into their forties and certainly past their primes.  I'd say that 1992 was the last year you could realistically say both of them where in their primes.
 
Flair even brought the belt from WCW!  It was all set up so perfectly to have the showdown between each promotion's top wrestler.  That was just a huge blunder to have not bult up that feud for all it was worth and make it into the biggest PPV match that Vince had ever had up to that point.
 
Some people who were very young didn't know that Andre and Hogan had already wrestled each other in the WWF around 1979/1980.  Hogan was the heel then and Andre won.  But Vince had the audacity to build up their WM III match as their first ever match.  What an insult to the intelligence of the fans!  I saw Hogan and Andre wrestle in a high school gym in New Hampshire and Andre dominated Hogan and made him run from the ring in fear after about 10 minutes of wrestling.  Basically Hogan said he quit.  In fact, Andre grabbed a microphone after the match and said that right before Hogan ran away, when Hogan was trapped in Andre's leg scissors hold, Hogan screamed "PLEASE MR. GIANT LET ME GO!" LOL!
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Reply #10 - Jun 6th, 2009, 7:40pm
 
Quote from russell on Jun 6th, 2009, 5:19am:
Quote from KOCRoyal on Jun 5th, 2009, 11:23pm:
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Magnum TA vs. Jimmy Garvin (unfortunately got cut short due to the accident but would have sent him into the deal with Flair)
Road Warriors vs. Powers of Pain
Tully/Arn vs. Midnights
Midnights vs. Original Midnights
Manny Fernandez vs. Jimmy Valiant (he did the turn but not too much after that)
Dusty vs. Ronnie Garvin
Barry Windham vs. Bam Bam Bigelow

On the Flair vs. Hogan deal:

I agree, this should have been built up to Wrestlemania. I would have hada few verbal confortations without them touching until maybe Royal Rumble time in the Rumble in order to build up the match at Mania. I think Vince was thinking $$$ signs early as I think the business was in a decline at that stage and wanted to put the match on at house shows early. But realistically, he could have done the rematches after the mania match and still did good. That is the way I see it anyhow, it could have went down differently than what I think.


Flair and Hogan never had any PPV matches during Flair's 1991-1992 run in WWF, just s few house show matches like you said, and Vince had the top wrestler of each of the two big promotions throughout the previous decade.  

When Flair and Hogan finally faced each other on PPV in WCW several years later, both men were well into their forties and certainly past their primes.  I'd say that 1992 was the last year you could realistically say both of them where in their primes.

Flair even brought the belt from WCW!  It was all set up so perfectly to have the showdown between each promotion's top wrestler.  That was just a huge blunder to have not bult up that feud for all it was worth and make it into the biggest PPV match that Vince had ever had up to that point.

Some people who were very young didn't know that Andre and Hogan had already wrestled each other in the WWF around 1979/1980.  Hogan was the heel then and Andre won.  But Vince had the audacity to build up their WM III match as their first ever match.  What an insult to the intelligence of the fans!  I saw Hogan and Andre wrestle in a high school gym in New Hampshire and Andre dominated Hogan and made him run from the ring in fear after about 10 minutes of wrestling.  Basically Hogan said he quit.  In fact, Andre grabbed a microphone after the match and said that right before Hogan ran away, when Hogan was trapped in Andre's leg scissors hold, Hogan screamed "PLEASE MR. GIANT LET ME GO!" LOL!

 
I know, by the time Flair and Hogan faced one another in WCW, the dream match lost it's luster. It should have been done at Wrestlemania VIII.
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Reply #11 - Jun 7th, 2009, 1:32pm
 
WCW screwed that up big time as well. They could have give it some credibility by having Hogan come in and go through a few guys to finally get Flair at Starrcade but of course they had to give the belt to Hogan on his first night in. I would have personally had Hogan going through Arn Anderson and Steve Austin to finally get to Flair at the biggest show of the year. Even though the "dream match" had lost its luster due to Vince running the series on the house show circuit, I think the match would have had some credibility if it was done right.
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Reply #12 - Jun 8th, 2009, 6:21am
 
Quote from KOCRoyal on Jun 7th, 2009, 1:32pm:
WCW screwed that up big time as well. They could have give it some credibility by having Hogan come in and go through a few guys to finally get Flair at Starrcade but of course they had to give the belt to Hogan on his first night in. I would have personally had Hogan going through Arn Anderson and Steve Austin to finally get to Flair at the biggest show of the year. Even though the "dream match" had lost its luster due to Vince running the series on the house show circuit, I think the match would have had some credibility if it was done right.

 
I agree.  I also think that to give the match credibility they would have had to have had Hogan job to Flair.  After all most WCW fans were NWA fans that continued to watch as it turned into WCW.  They had their favorites such as Flair, and the WWF crowd had their favorites such as Hogan.  So when you bring the former WWF Champion into WCW and have him beat Flair it's like telling the fans WWF was better all along; that WWF had the best wrestler.  They should have known that would anger WCW fans who had looked to Flair as the best in the business since the early 80s.
 
Then they wondered how why Hogan wasn't getting over as a face!!!  Eventually they were forced to turn Hogan heel.
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Reply #13 - Jun 11th, 2009, 6:47pm
 
ivan koloff/krushchev-barry darsow    v  nikita koloff after he turned with dusty?   did it ever happen if so i dont recall and wasnt much?
 
ole anderson  v  horsemen   i rember ole chasing them with a bat alot and having tim hornor with him but no matches.
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Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2009, 3:50am
 
Quote from russell on Jun 6th, 2009, 5:19am:
Quote from KOCRoyal on Jun 5th, 2009, 11:23pm:
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On the Flair vs. Hogan deal:

I agree, this should have been built up to Wrestlemania. I would have hada few verbal confortations without them touching until maybe Royal Rumble time in the Rumble in order to build up the match at Mania. I think Vince was thinking $$$ signs early as I think the business was in a decline at that stage and wanted to put the match on at house shows early. But realistically, he could have done the rematches after the mania match and still did good. That is the way I see it anyhow, it could have went down differently than what I think.


When Flair and Hogan finally faced each other on PPV in WCW several years later, both men were well into their forties and certainly past their primes.  I'd say that 1992 was the last year you could realistically say both of them where in their primes.

 
The WCW matches were only 2 years later. I wouldn't say it was an issue of being "past their prime" as much as (as another already pointed out) the luster was gone. It didnt feel like a huge, gigantic match, like it would have in WWF.  
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Reply #15 - Jun 19th, 2009, 11:50am
 
Arn defending the US title.
 
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