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Ric Flair's NWA belt on Ebay!!!
Sep 30th, 2009, 9:43am
 
According to the Wrestling Observer, Flair's original NWA belt will go up for auction on ebay next week. Evidently Highspots came into possession of the belt by fronting Flair a large sum of money. He has yet to pay the money back and there is also a debate over Highspots releasing Fanfest dvds featuring Flair without his permission. ???
For those of us who actually got to see and have our pictures taken with that belt this year it may have been the last time anybody ever sees it again.  
This really upsets me and is very unfortunate that Naitch has gotten himself in such financial trouble.  Hopefully the belt ends up in good hands and will be able to be viewed by fans for years.
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Re: Ric Flair's NWA belt on Ebay!!!
Reply #1 - Sep 30th, 2009, 11:13am
 
I only know what I read about Flair's finances, but it is hard for me to understand sometime how someone who has made a lot of money could be just as broke as I am. I have heard the legends about his spending habits but how many cars, houses & rolex watches can one man need. Maybe his divorces took it all. Maybe those NC Lottery tickets will make him enough to help out. I know the guys back then didn't make the mega-bucks they can now, but Flair was on top for a lot of years and I've heard he made high six figures for many of those years. He can still charge a sizeable fee for appearances although I suspect he has over-exposed that market and the fee will drop quite a bit. Speaking as someone who has to cough up $1,000 to get his 12 year-old car out of the shop today. It is hard for me to feel too sorry for a guy who should have been set for life with even a modest amount of financial planning. Most of us will never be blessed with the chance to make the kind of money to allow us to do that. I think of all the hard-working enhancement guys that probably wound up broke because they never made a fraction of the money Flair did.
 Having said all this, I wonder if the belt is worth that much to Flair anyway. He'd probably rather keep the money he already got - or he's already spent it.
  Its like I want to feel sorry for the guy but I can't.
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2009, 4:08am
 
Quote from Stylin61 on Sep 30th, 2009, 11:13am:
I think of all the hard-working enhancement guys that probably wound up broke because they never made a fraction of the money Flair did.
Having said all this, I wonder if the belt is worth that much to Flair anyway. He'd probably rather keep the money he already got - or he's already spent it.
 Its like I want to feel sorry for the guy but I can't.

 
 
What he said.
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Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2009, 6:36pm
 
It sounds like a terrible story of how someone could have so much money and then spends it all or it could be divorce we may never know... But I love Ric Flair and hopefully he can get the belt back from Highspots....
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Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2009, 5:08pm
 
Any rumor on what the opening bid will be or if there is proof it is THE belt?
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Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2009, 11:00am
 
Flair owes them around $50,000.
Reserve is likely going to be WAY above it.
 
From everything I keep hearing, this is just a scare tactic. I highly doubt the auction completes.
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Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2009, 4:58pm
 
God Bless Mr. Flair.....
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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2009, 7:40am
 
Quote from BeltFanDan on Oct 4th, 2009, 11:00am:
Flair owes them around $50,000.
Reserve is likely going to be WAY above it.

From everything I keep hearing, this is just a scare tactic. I highly doubt the auction completes.

 
 
What is your opinion on it in the sense of would this be THE belt to own? It certainly does have history. For that matter, is there a list of belts that you belt guys see as a WANT?
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2009, 9:44am
 
I say this is "the" belt to own. The only belt that comes close is the original Big Gold which Scott Steiner apparently has.
 
Both belts have near 20 years use and held by dozens of wrestling legends and defended in historic matches.
 
For comparison, WWF used over 30 Winged Eagle belts from 1988-1998. So it can be easy to pick up a Hulk Hogan or Bret Hart ring worn belt since there are so many.
 
That 1 NWA and 1 Big Gold were used consistently for near 20 years each. Big difference.
 
As for the politics of the belt, I will say that it was shopped around privately and if they wanted it sold, it would have sold by now. I see this auction as really just a way to get Flair to pay them back, because I don't even think Highspots wants any fan to have it. I believe they respect the business enough to know Flair should own that belt, but money talks, BS walks.
 
But for something this historic, eBay is a joke. They would get more money and more interest if it was set up at a proper, truly private auction house. Alot of people, especially in the collecting community are not too big on eBay and I don't blame them.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see it end up in Japan. Japanese fans are die hard when it comes to NWA and WWF classic memoribilia. Yen is killing the dollar, so they would also be getting a big discount for it.
 
If someone bids that belt near $100,000, it will be sold.
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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2009, 12:23pm
 
If it does go on sale, are you going to bid? My opening bid is 7k. 100k is WAY out of my ballpark.
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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2009, 12:46pm
 
For shits and giggles, I just called Highspots. I offered 36k and he said the two written offers were double that; Not Japs. It goes on sale on Highspots, not ebay, if it happens. He said 5pm EST tonight until next Monday.
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Reply #11 - Oct 5th, 2009, 2:38pm
 
Being a lifelong Ric Flair fan it really bugs me that this belt could be sold out from under Ric. But as we all have heard, Flair seems really irresponsible when it comes to handling money or paying back debts. But that is his choice and I still will be a fan and support him. I agree that this is the "Holy Grail" of wrestling belts, no other belt even comes close. The amount of money that this could sell for is astonishing. If it is in the 70-100 thousand dollar price range I'm sure that leaves out most or just about all of us fans on this board. I fell fortunate that I had the chance to see the belt and have my picture taken with Harley and Ric with the belt at Fanfest this year. If it does sell I hope it is to someone who really appreciates the history of the belt and all the legendary wrestlers that have worn it, and that it can be displayed to the public every now and then.  
 
Also, does any one know if the other earlier versions of this belt still exist? Like the red strap one that Jack Brisco wore, or belts that Harley Race or Terry Funk had?
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Reply #12 - Oct 5th, 2009, 3:39pm
 
Read the 10lbs of Gold book. Very good and can tell you about the the in-depth history of the belt.
 
This IS the belt. It was taken off the red velvet strap and put on black. Then releathered a few times and the side plates changed around over the years.
 
Harley and Dusty had copies made for themselves but were never ring used. Harley's belt doesn't have a dome. Dusty sold his copy on eBay like 6 years ago.
 
Like I said, they don't want this going to just anyone, otherwise it would have sold to those who made the serious offers. It is going to take $100,000 likely to get them to outright sell it to just anyone.
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Reply #13 - Oct 5th, 2009, 4:02pm
 
So I just called Highspots again. 48 hour cease and desist order on selling the belt. he can't even talk about it. i offered 63k which is basically all my money and he wouldn't budge on that.
 
from everything i have read, Flair loves this belt. It apparently is gonna go for the cash Dan said.
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Reply #14 - Oct 6th, 2009, 2:50pm
 
I hope Ric can get his belt back.. The 48 hours cease sounds like he could be very much on his way to getting it back.. I will be Seeing Flair saturday I will be sure to try and ask him what does he think about the belt and the issue with Highspots...
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Reply #15 - Oct 7th, 2009, 1:15pm
 
PWINSIDER reports
It appears Ric Flair and Highspots did not come to amends on the money owed as Highspots intends to start soliciting offers to outright sell the original NWA World championship belt within the next 24 hours.  
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Reply #16 - Oct 7th, 2009, 2:39pm
 
It's now listed for sale on their site.
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Reply #17 - Oct 7th, 2009, 5:20pm
 
Here's the link...........
 
http://www.highspots.com/nwabelt.asp
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Reply #18 - Oct 7th, 2009, 8:37pm
 
Flair makes no sense to me , ever watch his shoot? How about Bret Hart? Amazing how these "evil promoters" show them no respect over the years as they run around on their wives and have shown the mothers of their children "no respect". I would suggest Mr. Flair stop getting married when he can't control his ways and ends up right back to writing a payoff to the new ex-wife. I blame Ric Flair for the way Ric Flair turned out....
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Reply #19 - Oct 7th, 2009, 8:57pm
 
Ric has made some bad choices in his life but hey who has not. I hope he can just move forward if the belt sells and I know in my heart that Ric Flair is much bigger then the belt itself heck Ric is bigger then Wrestling itself along with Hulk Hogan God Bless Flair, Hogan, and Favre....
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Reply #20 - Oct 8th, 2009, 6:17am
 
Quote from JBLCENAFAN on Oct 7th, 2009, 8:37pm:
Flair makes no sense to me , ever watch his shoot? How about Bret Hart? Amazing how these "evil promoters" show them no respect over the years as they run around on their wives and have shown the mothers of their children "no respect". I would suggest Mr. Flair stop getting married when he can't control his ways and ends up right back to writing a payoff to the new ex-wife. I blame Ric Flair for the way Ric Flair turned out....

 
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.  
 
He had to live his gimmick though to be The Man and it only seems the Roma got out unscathed from being a Horseman. Except he has to be Paul Roma.
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Reply #21 - Oct 8th, 2009, 8:52pm
 
not sure how to spell it but Ric says in the shoot , "the day I become Richard Fleifr , is the day I go home , every woman seems to think that is who they are marrying" , but "I gotta be Ric Flair"...
If he owes them money then they should be able to sell the belt...
people want refunds when people back out of conventions...
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Reply #22 - Oct 9th, 2009, 1:56pm
 
They should be able to sell the belt if they are owed money but the belt does not define Ric and that is what matters to me with or without the belt Ric Flair is the man....
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Reply #23 - Oct 10th, 2009, 11:50am
 
I can see both sides. It's sad that Flair would be losing part of history. But, if he owes a bunch of money to them and never pays, what can they do ?
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Reply #24 - Oct 10th, 2009, 5:10pm
 
Ric was doing a signing today at the Dixie Classic Fair in Winston
Salem, NC promoting his lottery tickets. I got there 2 hours before
the signing and was about ten people back. We were told one autograph
and one pic per person. I had him sign a pic that was already signed
by Ricky The Dragon Steamboat and my Ten Pounds of Gold book. He was
super cool and chatted with me about how he was not losing his orginal
NWA title as the interwebs are saying. He said that title means more
to him than money. He said that that site is just using him and his
belt for hits
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