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I need your help in the Winter draft....
Oct 28th, 2012, 12:24pm
 
So far the list I have together for the rookie draft of 1983.
 
If I have missed anyone or have someone in there that I shouldn't please let me know. I have used around 5-6 sources.    
 
Wrestlers
Angel o Demonio
Angelo Mosca Jr.
Atlantis
Barry Darsow (Krusher Kruschev/Repo Man/Demoltion Smash/Blacktop Bully)
Bart Batten
Ben Bassarab
Bestia Savage
Billy Berger
Black Shadow Jr.
Bob Brown
Bobby Gaeteno
Bubba Douglas
'Bomber' Ray Evans
Brad Batten
Bronco #1
Chris Carter
Cueball Carmichael
Dan Collins
Daniel/Adolph barbie
Dave Viking
DJ Peterson/Dave Peterson
Geno Tsurumi
George Barnes
Gino Brito Jr.
Itallian Stallion (Gary Sabaugh)
Jason the Terrible (Karl Moffat)
Jason Walker
Jim Evans  
Jimmy Backlund Jr./Jimmy Del Ray
John Tatum/ Franklin Hayes
Johnny Kidd
Larry Kean (Moondog Cujo/Hillbilly Cousin Junior)
Len Kruger
Leroy Redbone
Mike Starbuck
Mike Von Erich
Noduhiko Takada
Paul Diamond
Paul Kelly
Phillip Lafon
Preston Steele
Randy Barber
Ray Dube
Rick Patterson
Rick Steiner
Rip Morgan
Road Warrior Hawk
Robbie Brookside
Ron Shaw
Sam Houston
Scott Armstrong
Steve Armstrong
Steve Lombardi
Super Bronco
Tama
Tim Gerrard
Tito Senza  
Tom Andrews
 
Managers/Valets
Marcel Pringle
Precious/Patti Garvin
Sunshine/Valerie French
 
Announcers/Ring Announcers
Larry Nelson
Tony Chimmel
Tony Schiavone
 
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2012, 12:47pm
 
Jim Backlund and Jimmy Del Ray are the same person
 
While researching Leon White/Vader several sources have him debuting in '85.  I also have seen him debuting in '83 and '84  
 
Larry Nelson debuted as an announcer in '83 as well.  He says so in his shoot interview.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2012, 12:50pm
 
I saw late '83 in two locations... can take him off the list.  
 
Will combine Del Ray and Bauckland and add Larry Nelson.
 
Thanks, this is what I am looking for.
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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2012, 3:31pm
 
Tony Falk and Tony Zane are currently on rosters in CWF and GCW respectively.
 
Tony Chimmel is listed on wrestlers and announcers.
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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2012, 4:34pm
 
That seems to cover what I've uncovered thus far and I was losing faith in the Vader early reference.
 
But, European & Mexican debut dates can be iffy as to what is considered a "pro" debut.  Is William Regal 15 yet?  I think tainees sometimes are on pro cards as young 'uns, plus IIRC Regal worked "pro" in sideshow type carnival gigs which still existed in UK tourist traps.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2012, 4:58pm
 
I will check Regal's bio to make sure but I thinnk he was wrestling in the carnies at this time.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2012, 5:06pm
 
Just read his bio.  He's in next year's class.  Debuts in June of 1984.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2012, 2:56pm
 
Any idea when this draft takes place?
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Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2012, 3:28pm
 
Right now the pencil date is the 19th of January, subject to change.
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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2012, 3:46pm
 
Some names that should be FA's (NOT 1983 rookies)
 
Tom Andrews, Tito Senza, Jim Evans, "Bomber" Ray Evans, Mike Starbuck, Dave Viking, Wayne Bridges
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2012, 5:44pm
 
Wayne Bridges is on the Georgia roster.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #11 - Dec 26th, 2012, 2:10pm
 
Three more
 
George Barnes
Smith Hart
Sonny Meyers (AKA Bob Adonis)
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #12 - Dec 26th, 2012, 3:52pm
 
Smith Hart was wrestling for a long, long time, but back when I first ran Stampede, it was decided not to include him as active, same with Dean, because their wrestling careers were more spot shows throughout the years over regular steady shows. Basically it was a week run here, then nothing for a few months, then a show here, then nothing for a few months, etc, etc, etc.
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Reply #13 - Dec 26th, 2012, 5:23pm
 
But he would be a lot of fun!  I was under the impression he did some work around this time away from Stampede in the Caribbean (and Central America IIRC).
 
OK here are three more
 
Billy Berger
Bubba Douglas (AKA Booker T)
Chuck Greenlee (Greeley)
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #14 - Dec 26th, 2012, 8:11pm
 
He did, but it still was not a steady, regular cycle.
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Reply #15 - Dec 27th, 2012, 4:11pm
 
Some more (not being smart or pushy, a lot are guys I am interested in)
 
Bobby Gaetano
Goro Tsurumi
Johnny Kidd (UK)
Tim Gerrard (1984)
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Reply #16 - Dec 29th, 2012, 1:53pm
 
Cagematch has
 
Brad & Bart Batten  
 
debuting in 1983 - wrestlingdata has them earlier (81 & 82)
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #17 - Jan 1st, 2013, 2:15pm
 
Red sent this list
 
 
Here's some '83 rookies and MIA's  
 
rookies
 
Bob Brown - Veasey's partner
 
Chris Carter
 
Johnny Tatum as Franklin Hayes
 
D.J./Dave Peterson (sp.)
 
Paul Kelly
 
Randy Barber
 
Jason Walker
 
 
 
 
MIA's
 
Ron Shaw
 
Marcel Pringle (sp./Percy's "cuz")
 
Dave/Adolph Barbee
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Reply #18 - Jan 1st, 2013, 2:31pm
 
I think that's the wrong Booker T. I think Booker Huffman might have been in prison around this time. Anyway, he didn't start wrestling in Texas until 89ish.
 
Bubba Douglas wrestled as Booker T, but he may actually be done by this point.
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Reply #19 - Jan 1st, 2013, 3:07pm
 
Bubba Douglas has matches to 85 in wrestlingdata & NO connection to Huffman!
 
Glad to see more names in the mix.
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #20 - Jan 6th, 2013, 5:40pm
 
In the case of direct teams like the Battens, can they be taken off the rookie list together?
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #21 - Jan 9th, 2013, 8:24pm
 
Booker T doesn't debut until June1, 1989
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #22 - Jan 10th, 2013, 4:22pm
 
My apologies for the Booker T confusion/  I was referring to Bubba Douglas who used the handle well before Huffman was out of reform school or wherever!
 
Two more active warm bodies - Len Kruger, Ray Dube
One deceased - John Boy Ruffen
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Re: I need your help in the Winter draft....
Reply #23 - Jan 14th, 2013, 6:22pm
 
Quote from BlindGuy on Jan 10th, 2013, 4:22pm:
My apologies for the Booker T confusion/  I was referring to Bubba Douglas who used the handle well before Huffman was out of reform school or wherever!

 
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